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    Is there any way Reiki practice could have existed even before Dr.Usui's time?

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    thehungrycaterpillar
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    Re: Is there any way Reiki practice could have existed even before Dr.Usui's time?

    Post by thehungrycaterpillar on Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:43 am

    Milarepa wrote:course it does!

    what came first? the chicken or the egg? Question


    I am going to shave off my head & may be my legs, join a monastery and find out!

    lol!

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    Re: Is there any way Reiki practice could have existed even before Dr.Usui's time?

    Post by Milarepa on Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:45 am

    i'lll go in spirit, and shave my beard off! geek


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    Re: Is there any way Reiki practice could have existed even before Dr.Usui's time?

    Post by chi_solas on Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:27 am

    It had to be the chicken
    or maybe the egg because
    who was on first confused


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    Re: Is there any way Reiki practice could have existed even before Dr.Usui's time?

    Post by Milarepa on Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:31 am

    hhee, i had a bit of fun with my missus with this one. she said the chicken, then i said where the chicken come from. she told me to shut up, lol.


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    Re: Is there any way Reiki practice could have existed even before Dr.Usui's time?

    Post by Bruce on Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:48 am

    chi_solas wrote:It had to be the chicken
    or maybe the egg because
    who was on first confused


    Who's on first? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfmvkO5x6Ng&feature=related

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    Re: Is there any way Reiki practice could have existed even before Dr.Usui's time?

    Post by thehungrycaterpillar on Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:31 pm

    Milarepa wrote:hhee, i had a bit of fun with my missus with this one. she said the chicken, then i said where the chicken come from. she told me to shut up, lol.


    Ah, That sweet girl is very wise! Laughing

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    Re: Is there any way Reiki practice could have existed even before Dr.Usui's time?

    Post by thehungrycaterpillar on Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:34 pm

    Bruce wrote:
    chi_solas wrote:It had to be the chicken
    or maybe the egg because
    who was on first confused


    Who's on first? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfmvkO5x6Ng&feature=related

    Bruce


    Hey Brooz!

    That was freaking funny!
    cheers

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    Re: Is there any way Reiki practice could have existed even before Dr.Usui's time?

    Post by chi_solas on Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:01 pm

    thehungrycaterpillar wrote:
    Bruce wrote:
    chi_solas wrote:It had to be the chicken
    or maybe the egg because
    who was on first confused


    Who's on first? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfmvkO5x6Ng&feature=related

    Bruce


    Hey Brooz!

    That was freaking funny!
    cheers


    Is that the first time you've heard
    "who was on first" a real classic in
    the baseball world Basketball


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    Re: Is there any way Reiki practice could have existed even before Dr.Usui's time?

    Post by Rlei_ki on Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:29 am

    thehungrycaterpillar wrote:
    ...I am wondering if Reiki healing existed even before Dr. Usui found it in 1922 ?.


    Dunno about Reiki healing, but an account of a Reiki initiation / 'empowerment' [i.e. Reiki kanjo] appears in a document purportedly written by the Emperor Daigo (died A.D. 930)

    - and a 14th century text entitled "Reiki seisakushõ" even includes an Initiation Certificate!

    see www.aetw.org/reiki_reikiki.htm (and link to Prof. Rambelli's paper)






    Oh, did I mention that there is more than one 'Reiki'...


    tongue

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    Re: Is there any way Reiki practice could have existed even before Dr.Usui's time?

    Post by thehungrycaterpillar on Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:23 am

    Rlei_ki wrote:
    thehungrycaterpillar wrote:
    ...I am wondering if Reiki healing existed even before Dr. Usui found it in 1922 ?.


    Dunno about Reiki healing, but an account of a Reiki initiation / 'empowerment' [i.e. Reiki kanjo] appears in a document purportedly written by the Emperor Daigo (died A.D. 930)

    - and a 14th century text entitled "Reiki seisakushõ" even includes an Initiation Certificate!

    see www.aetw.org/reiki_reikiki.htm (and link to Prof. Rambelli's paper)


    Oh, did I mention that there is more than one 'Reiki'...


    tongue



    YES!!!! Fantastic!!!
    I got a number, I got a number!

    I am poking the Hindu scriptures, looking for a timeline, etc,. We have story books in India talking about Sages and "wise ones' sitting under a village banyan tree and 'curing' people of illnesses. May be they were just practicing some kind of Reiki and nobody knew it.



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    Re: Is there any way Reiki practice could have existed even before Dr.Usui's time?

    Post by Frank on Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:24 am

    Hi,

    "Reiki" is the word used for spiritual energy. It is NOT the name of what Usui-sensei taught.

    The Japanese word "Reiki" (coming from Chinese "Ling Chi") doesn't refer to just any kind of spiritual energy. It is something very specific.
    Reiki, from the perspective of Usui-sensei's teachings, is the energy originating from the highest consciousness. It is the most highly refined and subtlest energy. It is "the Light", containing all possible energy frequencies (the entire spectrum of energies). It is the energy radiated by enlightened people.

    In this respect I would not dare to claim I work or meditate with Reiki......

    Anyway, as there have always been people who reached the higher levels of spiritual development (higher levels of awareness).. Reiki has always been there.
    And since discovering that one can help others by laying on hands is a natural part of spiritual development, there have always been people who used Reiki (= The Light) in what we would call a treatment.


    "Reiki" is about a specific energy. "Reiki healing" would be healing in which this energy (Reiki/The Light) is involved.
    It doesn't matter what method is used, as long as The Light (Reiki/Ling Chi) is used. (Then again, if you're at the level of being one with the Great Bright Light (which is Reiki), there is no need for specific methods or rituals any more.)

    Hope this helps.

    *Gasshō*
    Frank

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