Hiya,
This topic is similar to another one in the forum atm. The subject is very, very topical, but also very, very important. So i thought it best i highlight it by placing it as a topic in it's own right. Besides, i won't put this in the topic that is to do with Dan's, as my views here are not innuendo, or in any way related to Dan's views, but are aimed at the mainstream mindset.

Thanks to Ezri, the forum has an indication that the Japanese Navy (at the time Hayashi sensei would've been involved) would have taught the officers English.

With Hayashi sensei also signing his name in English (in the notary certificate of Takata sensei), in western format, and with flowing joined handwriting, one could be forgave for now thinking Hayashi sensei was a dab hand (pun intended) at understanding english, and writing it.

So, with indications that Hayashi sensei would have understood english, he obviously has no problem referring to himself as a 'Master' of the Usui System of Drugless Healing. And furthermore, refers to Takata sensei as a 'Master', i wonder just where the heck the logic is coming from it's somehow inappropriate or we should at least dis-courage, to refer to ourselves as a Master. It would seem there's not much, we western practitioners do right. Or is that really the case?

Warmest wishes

Wayne Harrison

Reiki Master

We do get hung up on that word
it seems to have a negative tone
in the Reiki world.

I still use RMT it on my brochures.

It is really ironic isn't it?

On one hand, it has been said that the levels and titles were created as Westerners needed a sense of advancement or they'd get bored and give up on it. This sentiment has also been used for why we have any or so many colored belts in martial arts.

And then all of a sudden, with the use of these titles, we have the prevailing attitude that it is pretentious. Especially since one can become a "Master" without doing anything more than showing up for a weekend or even a single day seminar. Heck, some folks get an attunement and nothing else.

But in my mind, I try not to place any judgment on the use of the term. I look, as far as I can, into the body of work the person has created, and make a determination as to whether I would want that "master" working on, or teaching me.

For sure Andy, seems we can do damn all right, hehe. Sometimes a while ago, i'd say 'Reiki teacher' when refering to myself, sometimes i say 'master'. It doesn't make me feel important. Actually scratch that, it does. When i done the master level i was knew i was dedicating my life to Reiki, so the term carries that importance with me.

It doesn't make me feel anymore important than say, a level 2 for instance. In fact, sharon (shakti) who's level 2 actually taught me something very valuable re: protection, in Reiki4all, which i've always publicly thanked, and i was actually level 3b then, hehe. yeah titles mean damn all really, a 25 year level 2 practitioner who used Reiki constantly, or a new weekend 3 level student, i know which one i'd go to for advice.

warmest wishes
Wayne

I'm agree with you.
I don't know the situation of your counties, but here there are not so much reiki masters and for this reasons is very hard not say to yourself "hey i'm better than other 'cause i'm a masters" in fact is easyer. But i think that reiki is not a path for pride, and levels are not as medals for general. i consider to be a master as an intenction for life, as if i say: ok, i want to teach reiki, i want to follow this path with my "student", me and them, together.
To be a master, for me, is not at all "to be superior" to other, but means that i promised to myself to help everyone asked me help, to teach to every one asked me for teaching. My master (my father) always said me "mastery is service" and "to be a master means to be a servant" and i think that that sentences are very good to explain what i want to do.

Going on i thing that be a master is the end of the reiki path, but better the beginning with a new consciousness. So i'm always happy learn something new, even if the teacher is a level 1 or a level 2 (or why not, someone who as no reiki but very spiritually evolved).

[how much is difficult posting in english??? I have to pratice it so please forgive me.. ]

you are making good sense in what you write Flannel,

Milarepa wrote:yeah titles mean damn all really, a 25 year level 2 practitioner who used Reiki constantly, or a new weekend 3 level student, i know which one i'd go to for advice.

Exactly. In my opinion, that's the main problem with the Master title. I think we all agree there is no doubt that Hayashi was a Master, and also Takata had years of practice and training behind her at the point Hayashi granted her the Master's certificate, but now we have students who spend three weekends sitting in a classroom and hey presto! they are Masters.

I've had Master level training from two teachers and keep searching for more information, and although I sometimes refer to myself as Reiki Master (for the convenience of the listener) I still feel uncomfortable doing that.

To me, being a Master means wisdom and knowledge gained through many years of work. I wish to accomplish that level some day, but that day has not yet come.

MattiT wrote:

Milarepa wrote:yeah titles mean damn all really, a 25 year level 2 practitioner who used Reiki constantly, or a new weekend 3 level student, i know which one i'd go to for advice.

Exactly. In my opinion, that's the main problem with the Master title. I think we all agree there is no doubt that Hayashi was a Master, and also Takata had years of practice and training behind her at the point Hayashi granted her the Master's certificate, but now we have students who spend three weekends sitting in a classroom and hey presto! they are Masters.

I've had Master level training from two teachers and keep searching for more information, and although I sometimes refer to myself as Reiki Master (for the convenience of the listener) I still feel uncomfortable doing that.

To me, being a Master means wisdom and knowledge gained through many years of work. I wish to accomplish that level some day, but that day has not yet come.

I am still searching for knowledge.
Even masters are life long learners.
Just when you think you know it, old
unfound information keeps showing up.

Milarepa wrote:
So, with indications that Hayashi sensei would have understood english, he obviously has no problem referring to himself as a 'Master' of the Usui System of Drugless Healing. And furthermore, refers to Takata sensei as a 'Master', i wonder just where the heck the logic is coming from it's somehow inappropriate or we should at least dis-courage, to refer to ourselves as a Master. It would seem there's not much, we western practitioners do right. Or is that really the case?

probably, that logic is coming as a reaction to the prevailing weekend mastership sessions

when we dont realize how precious gift we are conferring to others when we initiate them to Masters' level, such reactions are normal to assume and to expect!

i wonder on masters who place ads on websites saying that they attune to mastership within one session or within a consecutive sessions spanning two or three days(or weekends).. when people start giving masterships like railway tickets, what else w would expect but the start of an equal reaction on the use of the term "Master"!


i think, that instead of doing away with the use of term Master, we should build high repute around that term with our personal conduct... the term Master is not just a pride-tag, it has a substance! an ability! a big endowment!

if we are so easily convinced to drop the title 'master' from our names simply since there are nth million of masters now, or simply there are some 'masters' who dont bother how to carry out that title, then we should think are we just dropping the title or we are also dropping the importance of too ?????


unless we give importance to the tag "master", what driving force would be left for us to take care of whom to award mastership and to whom not ??




salman

Lambs-Wool wrote:

Milarepa wrote:
So, with indications that Hayashi sensei would have understood english, he obviously has no problem referring to himself as a 'Master' of the Usui System of Drugless Healing. And furthermore, refers to Takata sensei as a 'Master', i wonder just where the heck the logic is coming from it's somehow inappropriate or we should at least dis-courage, to refer to ourselves as a Master. It would seem there's not much, we western practitioners do right. Or is that really the case?

probably, that logic is coming as a reaction to the prevailing weekend mastership sessions

when we dont realize how precious gift we are conferring to others when we initiate them to Masters' level, such reactions are normal to assume and to expect!

i wonder on masters who place ads on websites saying that they attune to mastership within one session or within a consecutive sessions spanning two or three days(or weekends).. when people start giving masterships like railway tickets, what else w would expect but the start of an equal reaction on the use of the term "Master"!


i think, that instead of doing away with the use of term Master, we should build high repute around that term with our personal conduct... the term Master is not just a pride-tag, it has a substance! an ability! a big endowment!

if we are so easily convinced to drop the title 'master' from our names simply since there are nth million of masters now, or simply there are some 'masters' who dont bother how to carry out that title, then we should think are we just dropping the title or we are also dropping the importance of too ?????


unless we give importance to the tag "master", what driving force would be left for us to take care of whom to award mastership and to whom not ??




salman

I remember Reikijim mentioned that
his teacher required much confirmed
Reiki treatments before moving to
another level. I know it was more
ridget than what I had to do. I'm
aware of the value of doing this.
it makes sense to me.

.

chi_solas wrote:

I remember Reikijim mentioned that
his teacher required much confirmed
Reiki treatments before moving to
another level. I know it was more
ridget than what I had to do. I'm
aware of the value of doing this.
it makes sense to me.

.

Yes, I have had to provide evidence of giving a minimum of 120 hours of Jikiden Reiki treatments on at least 40 different people, 4 case studies and an essay on why I would like to become a Shihan Kaku (Assistant Teacher) before I could be considered as a possible student on the course which I am taking next week direcly with Tadao Yamaguchi!

Colin wrote:

chi_solas wrote:

I remember Reikijim mentioned that
his teacher required much confirmed
Reiki treatments before moving to
another level. I know it was more
ridget than what I had to do. I'm
aware of the value of doing this.
it makes sense to me.

.

Yes, I have had to provide evidence of giving a minimum of 120 hours of Jikiden Reiki treatments on at least 40 different people, 4 case studies and an essay on why I would like to become a Shihan Kaku (Assistant Teacher) before I could be considered as a possible student on the course which I am taking next week direcly with Tadao Yamaguchi!

I'm impressed

Bravo ! Colin all the best !

hai friends,

true Master means who has control body and mind and soul.

vj