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    How many traditional Reiki symbols?

    Post by EzriReiki on Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:12 am

    Hello everybody,

    I have been sent this link to an article on the Reiki symbols written by the about.com resident expert Phylameana lila Desy who is certified in Usui Shiki Ryoho Reiki (?)

    According to her there are Five Traditional Usui Reiki Symbols ???

    http://healing.about.com/od/reiki/tp/reiki-symbols.htm


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    Re: How many traditional Reiki symbols?

    Post by Milarepa on Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:27 am

    Hiya Ezri,
    I gotta go get my hair a blue rinse, so just a quick note...

    I'll read that article soon, but funny enough, a certain UK/world 'expert', the Masters master ( Laughing ) says there's also 5 symbols. One being the masters master symbol (funny h'es called that). Being in charge of research/development and chairing a well known UK Reiki organisation, as well as very prominent in the Reiki council, i'm sure he'd know best.

    Warmest wishes
    Wayne

    Edit: just glanced over it. I guess the majority of folks who didn't have Raku used must be airheads then, not being grounded, hehe.


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    Re: How many traditional Reiki symbols?

    Post by LightBody on Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:28 am

    EzriReiki wrote:According to her there are Five Traditional Usui Reiki Symbols ???


    I have come to believe that Traditional Reiki is any form of Reiki that someone practices that they got from someone else....

    Whether or not a symbol is a Reiki symbol or not seems to be largely influenced by a persons intuition. If a person is feeling the Reiki flow and they think of a symbol or one just appears in their head, that symbol can be called a Reiki symbol. When the person goes on to teach Reiki, the symbol that they thought of during that flow of Reiki is sometimes given to their students as a Reiki symbol.

    Raku is of Tibetan origin and was introduced by Arthur Robertson and Iris Ishikuro when they taught Reiki. They were influenced by the appeal of Tibetan mysticism and religion, and apparently liked the symbol well enough to use it in their Reiki practice.

    Use of Raku became famous through Diane Stein and her book Essential Reiki. Although she was not the first to put many Reiki symbols into print, her book seemed to be more popular. Raku can now be considered a part of "Traditional" Reiki because so many people have used it for so long.

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    Re: How many traditional Reiki symbols?

    Post by Shakti ~ Rising on Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:56 am

    I was only aware of four in Usui Reiki....I've heard other systems can have loads.....EEK how the hell all that works i have no idea...... *blinks*

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    Re: How many traditional Reiki symbols?

    Post by Frank on Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:34 pm

    Hi,

    Usui-sensei introduced the symbols in 1923. He introduced four and he never added any more.
    The mantras were introduced much earlier. He added four mantras in 1915 and as far as we know he never added more.

    Only two of the symbols are 'real symbols', some Reiki researchers say.
    The other two are just kanji, so those two are actually Japanese sentences (representing a state of mind).

    Hope this helps.

    *Gasshō*
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    Re: How many traditional Reiki symbols?

    Post by Lisel on Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:06 pm

    Hi all

    I have the 3 symbols from Reiki II and as a master I got, two master symbols + Raku, so that is 6 symbols and one of the master signs I can use in two ways. The 2 master symbols are both called DKM, Tibetan DKM and Traditionel Usui DKM, but they are very different from each other.

    sunny

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    Re: How many traditional Reiki symbols?

    Post by Lambs-Wool on Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:10 pm

    hi Lisel

    Raku and Tibetean DKM (with power serpent ? ) are not taught to many folks within Usui Shiki Ryoho, and it is generally believed that Takata Sensei taught only four symbols CKR, SHK, HSZSN and DKM (not the Tibetean DKM, so to say)...

    Within reiki, there is a great potential that we blend the knowledge handed down to us, with what we have self-discovered and this is how a new style/system generates... While human knowledge, as it accumulates to bigger and yet bigger pools, has certainly no limits, it is also paramount that we maintain an intact identity of what was originally taught by the founder and what was spread by Takata Sensei in the first place...

    interesting to note that if a reiki master, when perfomring an attunement, changes the steps/sequence of steps which were taught to him in the first place, he is not handing down the exact flavour of his lineage... not butting into the debate that whether it is right or wrong, since merits accrue to both, we at least have to keep a record that where and why we have made changes to the system during handing down the system Smile

    perhaps, it has now somehow become a general belief that reiki has an enormous potential for add-ons.... and how to maintain the purity of the teachings we received, is something on which there is no 'general' belief that can be said to exist Smile study

    take care

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    Re: How many traditional Reiki symbols?

    Post by Lisel on Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:59 pm

    Hi Salman

    I know that the Tibetan DKM is not normaly taught and I don't really know wich master in my lineage started it. But I do know that Furumuto and William Lee Rand is in my lineage.
    I often wonder where it started.

    I do Reiji Ho when I work and Reiki does not tell me to use any symbols, so I don't really use them that much.
    But it is a very powerfull healing symbol. It feels like it draws out whatever pain or ilness the client has.

    Regarding initiations I do what I'm taught to do and it works great, but it would be great to know excactly how Usui did it and how he taught his master students to do it.

    There are so many unanswered qustions..

    Sorry for my spelling clown Smile confused

    Take care
    Lisel

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    Re: How many traditional Reiki symbols?

    Post by Colin on Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:28 pm

    Lisel wrote:Hi Salman

    I know that the Tibetan DKM is not normaly taught and I don't really know wich master in my lineage started it. But I do know that Furumuto and William Lee Rand is in my lineage.
    I often wonder where it started.
    ...
    Take care
    Lisel


    Hi Lisel

    The Tibetan DKM, Raku (and Nin Giz - the Fire Serpent, and the antakharana) were all added (as far as I know) by a gentleman called Arthur Robertson, who was a student of Iris Ishikuro, a Master student of Hawayo Takata. He felt that Reiki had a "Tibetan flavour" and introduced these symbols. The origin of most of them, apart from the antakharana, I don't know, unless he came up with them himself, but the antakharana, or at least the word, most likely originated with Alice Bailey, who was a Theosophist at the turn of the 20th century.

    One of William Rand's branches of lineage comes through,this way and new styles of Reiki, e.g. Raku Kei Reiki and Usi tibetan Reiki, were originally developed to hold these new symbols. However, they seem to have found their way into some styles of Usui Shiki Ryoho, possibly through people taught by William Rand (whose school has taught many thousands of people) though what he teaches (or at least originally taught) was called Usui Tibetan Reiki. I think he now tends to focus more on the more traditional Japanese way of Reiki.

    Hope that helps!

    I was also taught a non-Usui Reiki symbol when I was first taught Reiki. It was called Tama-a-rasha, which actually has roots in one of the Seichim styles in Australia and is also used in a non-Reiki style of healing called Kofutu, said to have originated in Atlantis! Rolling Eyes

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    Re: How many traditional Reiki symbols?

    Post by Lisel on Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:36 pm

    Hi Colin

    Thank you for your answer Very Happy

    I call my line Usui Reiki Ryoho (so did my master) and I at least try to teach from a Japanese view - there are so many opinions and paths of Reiki and I think one just have to feel and look inside oneself to find what is right for you..
    There are millions off people and if there were just one way to do Reiki, then it would'nt reach so many people - we are all different sunny

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    Re: How many traditional Reiki symbols?

    Post by Lambs-Wool on Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:14 pm

    Thanks Lisel and Colin Smile

    Lisel wrote:There are millions off people and if there were just one way to do Reiki, then it would'nt reach so many people - we are all different sunny

    Namaste


    even if there was one single way to do reiki, everyone here would be having a different experience scratch

    Smile

    take care

    salman

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    Re: How many traditional Reiki symbols?

    Post by Lisel on Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:16 pm

    Hi Salman

    That is so true lol!

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    Re: How many traditional Reiki symbols?

    Post by Colin on Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:04 pm

    Lisel wrote:Hi Colin

    Thank you for your answer Very Happy

    I call my line Usui Reiki Ryoho (so did my master) and I at least try to teach from a Japanese view - there are so many opinions and paths of Reiki and I think one just have to feel and look inside oneself to find what is right for you..
    There are millions off people and if there were just one way to do Reiki, then it would'nt reach so many people - we are all different sunny

    Namaste


    Hi Lisel

    Yes, I sometimes think that the many styles of Reiki are a product of Reiki itself - allowing it to spread to more people than it would if there was only one way to experience it! Very Happy

    In my post above, I was trying to answer your thoughts about where the use of Tibetan DKM may have started rather than say it was not right to use it. Smile

    cheers


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    Re: How many traditional Reiki symbols?

    Post by Reikijim on Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:48 am



    Hi,

    I recently heard of yet another new Reiki symbol. Apparently a lady in southern Alberta has taken it upon herself to empower the kanji symbol for reiki. She and her trained masters have been attuning people to it for a couple of years now.

    Jim

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    Re: How many traditional Reiki symbols?

    Post by chi_solas on Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:57 am

    Reikijim wrote:

    Hi,

    I recently heard of yet another new Reiki symbol. Apparently a lady in southern Alberta has taken it upon herself to empower the kanji symbol for reiki. She and her trained masters have been attuning people to it for a couple of years now.

    Jim


    What style of Reiki does she teach? study


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