Lambs-Wool wrote:hi Bridget

in the mystic system, which i feel i m connected to, we annotate something like 'doors' of spirituality... we feel and we are taught to believe ()that we have to pass these doors one after the other, on our travel alongside our path...


first of the doors we have to pass is the door of ego, vanity, myself thoughts...

then is the door of physical and sensual pleasures....

and so on, door after door...

the earlier doors refer to ourselves, our desires, our material bodies, or material presence....

once we successfully pass the 'self' doors, we have to pass doors of universe aroudn us... we have to get in touch with the true material essence of the things surrounding us and making our lives... basic elements... water, air, fire, etc... then elemental ores deep down the earthc cust, up above to the thinnest air and the glaxies... and so on....


afer we have succesffuly passed 'doors' of the universe, we come to pass, rather to merge in the doors leading to Divine...


so spirituality starts with 'me', 'myself' transcends to the universe around me, and completes by merger into the Divine (spiritually speaking )


take care

salman

Thanks for that simple explanation.
In my trying to separate religion
& spiritual it would seem that
Human spirit could equate spiritual
being.

chi_solas wrote:
Thanks for that simple explanation.
In my trying to separate religion
& spiritual it would seem that
Human spirit could equate spiritual
being.

hi Bridget

i was just curious to know that what were your experiences when you tried to find spirituality 'within' religion (and not outside it) ?

lemme give you an example... i have studied hinduism, and while i m in no way in agreement of various things within that religion, i can clearly see that various practices within that religion have very sound spiriutal basis if done properly..

and i do dare to generalize that the same thing must be true with other religions too... in my own religion Islam, a great number of practices dont yield their due fruits unless done spiriutally, or to be more general, unless done mindfully....


one thing is common among religions, and that is worship of some sort, and how a worship be ever done without doing it spiritually ? this is a simple question


human spirit equating spiritual being... that i have to say something about


i m among those who believe that we have a soul that is somehow housed in a physical body... and death comes when this tie is severed...


if we try to strenghten our human spirit through various practices, this does not directly mean we are developing our spirituality too... spirituality does not come through spirit alone, it is generated when spirit, mind, body all go united in direction of love and peace...


(i might be confused in using the terms spirituality and spiritualism interchangeably here, and i would appreciate if you give me exact meanings of the two terms as is understood in the west these days)


a spiritual being is a person, in my views, whose physical actions supplement his spirit, and whose spirit in turn helps him to take due adantage and pleasure out of his physical actions... a spirituality without taking into account physical harmony is but only a trap as far as i feel

take care


salman

salman your ahead of me, I'm
a late bloomer. I was born into
religion. I did not know there
were other religions out there.
I knew we had catholic,protestant
and jews. The global picture came
very late in my adult life.

When I disconnected from organized
religion much guilt was involved so
I'm pretty much not a follower. I
went on a self-healing journey about
10 years ago and was amazed that I
became much closer to human kind and
my inner self was brought to the
forefront. Instead of they shalt not
I was learning I can. Judgements of
myself and others began to not be part
of my thinking pattern.

I am walking a different path and
learning. We are all at a different
place in our lives. Some of us are
still searching. I see the Reiki
principles being part of a new spirit
that I embrace.

Well Bridget, you are a beacon for all ov us!

the feeling that i m on my path, and that i m learning as my life is going, is what that unveils truths and take us to awareness...


personally, i hold that buddy on a high pedestal who has endavoured to look beyond established thought system, be it religion or else...


may you be blessed more and more in your quest of truth Bridget ! i have my solemn wishes for souls like you


take care