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    Ultimate purpose? (Brainstorming)

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    Milarepa
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    Ultimate purpose? (Brainstorming)

    Post by Milarepa on Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:26 am

    What's the ultimate purpose of the Reiki experience?


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    Re: Ultimate purpose? (Brainstorming)

    Post by Colin on Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:21 am

    According to Usui sensei: "Shin shin kaizen..." (Improvement of Mind and Body).

    Also "anshin ritsumei" or "anjin ryumei" - the state of perfect peace and happiness, being bothered by nothing.

    Oh, yes, and it helps you relax as well! Very Happy


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    Re: Ultimate purpose? (Brainstorming)

    Post by Milarepa on Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:02 am

    Cheers bro, Smile.

    so, to improve ourselves, be calmer, centered & more relaxed, this is all cool. Are these the ultimate purpose? Cause they're achievable relatively quickly (to one degree or another), with daily Reiki expereince.

    Is there something deeper.


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    Re: Ultimate purpose? (Brainstorming)

    Post by Rlei_ki on Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:20 am

    Milarepa wrote:What's the ultimate purpose of the Reiki experience?



    Perhaps, the ultimate purpose is to engender the realisation that there is no 'ultimate purpose'?


    "Just for today..."


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    Re: Ultimate purpose? (Brainstorming)

    Post by Milarepa on Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:44 am

    hehe. Even with mindfulness, there's a larger reason for it. for example, Buddha taught mindfulness is crucial to the path of enlightenment.

    A personal example, when i was 19, my yoga teacher told me the reason to meditate is just for the joy of sitting. This is true, and when teaching these things, it's important to not focus on any 'end goal', or 'ultimate' reason, this doesn't mean there isn't an ultimate purpose for meditation.

    Same with Reiki, imo. With the principles we've a reminder about being focused for today. This doesn't mean that there's isn't other things that the experience of Reiki may/can bring about, after an accumaltion of those 'just for todays'. Notwithstanding, the Reiki principles, although obviously crucial to Reiki, may or may not have any bearing on the actual reason for the experience we call Reiki?

    what i'm really thinking of in this topic, is the path of Reiki in it's experience. intially, improvement in our mind, body, spirit. Some would call this Reiki Ryoho. Then some might mention Reiho. I feel there's no difference ultimately, only in initial application via techniques, maybe. Spirtitual advancement is healing, and healing it. So i'm suggesting the ultimate purpose (maybe effect) of Reiki, is the complete unification of ourselves, which is right up to enlightenment. Smile.



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    Re: Ultimate purpose? (Brainstorming)

    Post by Reikijim on Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:03 pm

    ...my answer would have to be...transcendence and satori...leading to pure consciousness silent

    Smile RJ

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    Re: Ultimate purpose? (Brainstorming)

    Post by Milarepa on Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:19 pm

    Yeah, if it was Usui sensei whom empowered the symbols, and we expereince an ability he did, perhaps a purpose of Reiki might be to expereince something like Usui sensei did. not neccesarily a mountain fast mystical expereince, but a mystical expereince of some magnitude, that has lasting effect nonetheless.


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    Re: Ultimate purpose? (Brainstorming)

    Post by Reikijim on Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:40 pm

    Rlei_ki wrote:
    Milarepa wrote:What's the ultimate purpose of the Reiki experience?



    Perhaps, the ultimate purpose is to engender the realisation that there is no 'ultimate purpose'?


    "Just for today..."


    silent



    .......just be...... cheers

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    Re: Ultimate purpose? (Brainstorming)

    Post by Lambs-Wool on Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:55 pm

    Wayne Smile

    a good topic indeed !

    people come to reiki with a therapautic bent of mind in the first instance... they get treatments... find the wonders working... and then think about getting attunements for themselves.... other way round, they get attunements in order to self-heal and heal others.... but this is only the start !

    when they practice reiki, and practice more, they find that therapautic element is just a part of a larger, bigger system.. they find that healing flows naturally to practice of reiki... healing no longer remains the goal, but becomes a milestone, an achievement, which we get and then embark on something next...


    as per topic in question, re : "ultimate purpose", i doubt that we should be having an "ultimate purpose" ever Smile


    reiki experience is a liberation...liberation from worries, anger, etc.... reiki is a feeling... reiki, my personal opinion, is not a means to some end... it is the end itself, with a next beginning awaiting us always... an endless journey, if we call it a journey....


    as in other spiriutal practices and systems, we have to experience reiki for the sheer pleasure of it... we have to feel what we are feeling during reiki... we have to be 'one' with that feeling... i learned a precious lesson during my early age concentration exercises, that if we have to concentrate on something while gazing or meditating, we have to feel it and become part of that feeling instead of trying or attempting to concentrate on it by sitting outside it.... and same is with reiki perhaps ! Smile

    so i second what your yoga teaher said Smile

    nirvana, satori, revelation is never ever planned or attempted... it just comes on its own way... we have instances that sometimes revealation of something just 'descends' on us even when we were not thinking about that particular thing at that moment..


    reiki sets going a process, and in itself, it is not a process per se.. rather it is a complete world in itself...


    when we feel reiki, we are already in reiki, and nothing is there which we have to travel..... except our perception ! Smile


    take care

    (a big applause for the topic) Smile


    salman

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    Re: Ultimate purpose? (Brainstorming)

    Post by Milarepa on Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:24 pm

    looking at the responses to this topic, at the risk of it being misunderstood, i'm not suggesting there should be any 'goal' set in mind. Not that a goal in Reiki is bad in itself. Anyone ever applied Reiki in response to an illness, there's been a goal, i.e. the absense of said illness. In fact, many techniques in Reiki Ryoho has a goal when applied. The ultimate goal of Buddhism for example, is to escape samsara, by enlightenment. This doesn't mean that Buddhist's focus on obtaining enlightenment per se, but they're still aware of the big reason.

    what i'm suggesting is that there's something beyond the obvious healing, the calmness, etc. Has God gave us Reiki only for these things, or, are these things already noted, merely signs of a larger picture begining to happen within ourselves.

    There's a difference in being aware of a purpose, as opposed to latching onto it, striving to achieve it. The latter can impede spiritual progress, the former won't.

    Take care
    Wayne


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    Re: Ultimate purpose? (Brainstorming)

    Post by Lambs-Wool on Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:21 am

    Milarepa wrote:

    There's a difference in being aware of a purpose, as opposed to latching onto it, striving to achieve it. The latter can impede spiritual progress, the former won't.

    Take care
    Wayne


    perfect!!

    totally agreed Smile


    take care
    salman

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    Re: Ultimate purpose? (Brainstorming)

    Post by Shakti ~ Rising on Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:09 am

    Milarepa wrote:What's the ultimate purpose of the Reiki experience?


    Spiritual awakening, discovery and truth.... I love you

    To cleanse and throw wide open our 'doors of perception'

    I also believe that Reiki, along with other spiritual practices coming out of the old mystery schools, are accessible to us all now for the purpose of helping all of humanity wake up to spiritual realities and dimensions.....to help humanity as a whole move into the 'next age'.... ( back to the 20120 stuff) Very Happy

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    Re: Ultimate purpose? (Brainstorming)

    Post by vijaybali on Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:36 am

    hai friends,

    I feel reiki merging us into god day by day and one day we become god......


    thanks and love

    vj

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    Re: Ultimate purpose? (Brainstorming)

    Post by Milarepa on Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:45 am

    totally agree sharon!

    Sounds good VJ!


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    Re: Ultimate purpose? (Brainstorming)

    Post by Thaak on Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:35 am

    I think the "ultimate purpose" of the Reiki experience is individualized.

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