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    Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

    Post by Colin on Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:02 am

    Milarepa wrote:

    Colin wrote: Usui's system is easy to learn but difficult to teach!


    I know this is said now. I hesitate with this. Looking at the way things would have been back then.

    The connection & learning to perform a technique. Is that all there is to Reiki? If so, many folks are really wasting their time, Sad . Even with a technqiue, there's more to it than the actions. Much more becomes revealed. We see this in martial arts also.


    That is what I meant - it is easy to be taught and practice the various techniques and get some good results by going through the motions but much less easy to be taught and practice the techniques in such a way that you fully experience what each technique has to offer.

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    Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

    Post by Milarepa on Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:06 am

    sorry bro, i shoulda realised you of all people, would already easily know this. Smile


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    Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

    Post by Pandora on Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:48 pm

    Milarepa wrote:Just saw your post Chris.

    Pandora wrote:Wayne, when Usui sensei wrote "work hard" he didn't specify what at!


    Eh? so when he said 'be grateful' or 'be kind to others' that also wasn't specific enough? Should we just decide to what extent we take those instructions from Usui sensei?

    we're talking about a place, and a time, in which spiritually, every single act was done with the utmost cocentration, and mindfullness.

    and anyhow, of course Reiki is at the forefront of what he meant, it's the Reiki principles for pete's sake, hehe! In which, on his memorial, the bottom of the principles states 'Usui spiritual healing method' and 'founder'.
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    Well, it seemed that you had done exactly that - applied the "work hard" instruction only to Reiki. Apologies for the misunderstanding.

    And how do you know that "spiritually every single act was done with the utmost concentration and mindfulness"? I think that was probably the idea, but people didn't - they were just as human as we are, after all.

    In Buddhist thought, every act is a spiritual act, and I think that's part of "mindfulness" too. I read a book when I was a teenager, written by a Christian monk, called "The practice of the presence of God", in which he described his search to find the presence of God in everyday things, even washing up. To me, that is the work of Reiki: to find Reiki in our everyday life, not just in doing the various exercises. And believe me, that's hard work!

    You also ask about why more Level 1s than Level 3s. That seems to be the way, throughout the history of Reiki. Perhaps some people are meant to stick at one level. I've mentioned my lovely friend Jeannie, who is a Reiki person through and through and more spiritual than some of the Reiki Masters I've met - yet she is a Level 2 and doesn't want to be a Level 3. There are as many answers to that question as there are people.

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    Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

    Post by Dragonfly on Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:46 pm

    Milarepa wrote:
    Colin wrote:
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    any idea why so many of Usui sensei's students were taught level 1, yet so few level 3?


    Maybe because most people wanted to learn Usui's system to use as a hands-on healing system to help themselves and others. The first teachings (shoden) would be all that is needed to do that.


    Good point! although with over 2000 students mathematically, i'd assume more would want to learn it all.



    You'd think so, but as Chris pointed out, there are people who are content at staying at Level 1 or 2. They do Reiki for themselves or friends and have no desire to "learn it all." Just as there are many people who learn yoga or meditation and become quite accomplished, but don't become yoga teachers, meditation teachers or lay priests (i.e. Zen.) Teaching is a calling and not everyone is cut out for it. Of course you can become a Reiki Master and still never attune anyone. I agree with you that it is a process that requires time and discipline. I went through all the attunements rather quickly but I would say I still have a lot of work and learning to do. I would like to study with another teacher, not because I have any problems with my current Reiki teacher (we are good friends) but because I have a desire to keep learning and improving. Plus, I want to be a better teacher to my own students.

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    Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

    Post by Milarepa on Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:57 am

    yeah Dana, we're talking bout a few people here. Over 2000 though?

    trying to look at 2000 students of an easy to leanr, new system now, and only a handful becoming teachers, could in itself have no bearing on 100 years ago in Japan, granted.

    It could be a money situation thing also, i've heard these kinda things where expensive then in Japan.

    your examples of folks being accomplished at yoga & lay priests is quite valid. We both know though, to be a yoga teacher or Zen master is hard work, and it's this that may be a big factor in folks not being a teacher in it, hence my supposition.

    speaking from personal expereince only, when i learn something, i like to learn everything about it, it's not that important to actually teach, mor eimportant to go the full way with it. Which of course, you've suggested already.


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    Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

    Post by Shakti ~ Rising on Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:43 am

    ok just jumping in here, only skimmed over the posts....and I'm struck by the idea of guides....

    many moons ago when I first started out in healer development , one of the 'units' of the course was an execrcise to connect with our 'guide/guides'....it was an inner journey and was an interesting trip....the 'guide' I ended up connecting with was myself... !!!???!! I was shocked....I wont go into to the whole journey but it was very beautiful and I came face to face with myself sat crossed legged on a rock at the edge of a waterfall.... but this version of myself was a much more beautiful and 'perfect' version of me....I was gorgeous!! ahahahahahahahaha

    no little old native american or buddhist priest or siberian shaman or alien sister..... nope, just little old me....!

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    Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

    Post by Milarepa on Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:21 am

    Sounds real good sharon. Guides in folks lives are good, if they feel they need them. Or, they can maybe concentrate on themselves, and gettign to knoe thyself more, hehe.


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    Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

    Post by Pandora on Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:30 am

    Shakti ~ Rising wrote:ok just jumping in here, only skimmed over the posts....and I'm struck by the idea of guides....

    many moons ago when I first started out in healer development , one of the 'units' of the course was an execrcise to connect with our 'guide/guides'....it was an inner journey and was an interesting trip....the 'guide' I ended up connecting with was myself... !!!???!! I was shocked....I wont go into to the whole journey but it was very beautiful and I came face to face with myself sat crossed legged on a rock at the edge of a waterfall.... but this version of myself was a much more beautiful and 'perfect' version of me....I was gorgeous!! ahahahahahahahaha

    no little old native american or buddhist priest or siberian shaman or alien sister..... nope, just little old me....!


    How lovely! You met your higher self!

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