OOoohhhh but through Reiki we are all one!

I can't argue with that one, Yoda!

We are all one, we are all different.

thehungrycaterpillar wrote:Hurry up with the new one, you are beginning to resemble Bruce & Eric!!

Ahem. So what's wrong with that?

Bruce

Bruce wrote:

thehungrycaterpillar wrote:Hurry up with the new one, you are beginning to resemble Bruce & Eric!!

Ahem. So what's wrong with that?

Bruce

Nothing My Dear, it's for selfish reasons,
I just like to see people's Faces, it completes the wiring for me!!

XXX

I am very late to this conversation, as usual.

I learned kenyoku as part of my Reiki training. I will either do that, or wash my hands with soap and water or sanitizing gel before/after sessions. Even if I'm not taking on energy, I still may be taking on or transferring germs. Not a good gift to give OR receive!

When I was trained to do Pranic Healing, they taught us to keep a bowl of salt water nearby to flick the "dirty" energy into, where it would then be neutralized. We were also required to keep a small spray bottle filled with a rubbing alcohol/water mixture that we were supposed to continually spray our hands with while cleansing and recharging the areas we were doing energy work on. (I was told by the teacher that Grandmaster Choa Kok Sui used to spray his hands with good quality vodka - that sort of struck me as odd.) Needless to say, I found that process rather tedious and invasive. Who wants to keep breathing in rubbing alcohol fumes during the course of a healing session? My husband, who works in health care, said it could also be dangerous because constantly putting alcohol on the skin is dehydrating.

Dragonfly wrote:I am very late to this conversation, as usual.

I learned kenyoku as part of my Reiki training. I will either do that, or wash my hands with soap and water or sanitizing gel before/after sessions. Even if I'm not taking on energy, I still may be taking on or transferring germs. Not a good gift to give OR receive!

When I was trained to do Pranic Healing, they taught us to keep a bowl of salt water nearby to flick the "dirty" energy into, where it would then be neutralized. We were also required to keep a small spray bottle filled with a rubbing alcohol/water mixture that we were supposed to continually spray our hands with while cleansing and recharging the areas we were doing energy work on. (I was told by the teacher that Grandmaster Choa Kok Sui used to spray his hands with good quality vodka - that sort of struck me as odd.) Needless to say, I found that process rather tedious and invasive. Who wants to keep breathing in rubbing alcohol fumes during the course of a healing session? My husband, who works in health care, said it could also be dangerous because constantly putting alcohol on the skin is dehydrating.

Its interesting to see what other practitioners have been taught.
I agree with your husband that rubbing alcohol dehydrates the skin.
Its also not a relaxing smell

Dragonfly wrote:I am very late to this conversation, as usual.

I learned kenyoku as part of my Reiki training. I will either do that, or wash my hands with soap and water or sanitizing gel before/after sessions. Even if I'm not taking on energy, I still may be taking on or transferring germs. Not a good gift to give OR receive!

When I was trained to do Pranic Healing, they taught us to keep a bowl of salt water nearby to flick the "dirty" energy into, where it would then be neutralized. We were also required to keep a small spray bottle filled with a rubbing alcohol/water mixture that we were supposed to continually spray our hands with while cleansing and recharging the areas we were doing energy work on. (I was told by the teacher that Grandmaster Choa Kok Sui used to spray his hands with good quality vodka - that sort of struck me as odd.) Needless to say, I found that process rather tedious and invasive. Who wants to keep breathing in rubbing alcohol fumes during the course of a healing session? My husband, who works in health care, said it could also be dangerous because constantly putting alcohol on the skin is dehydrating.

When I was taught Pranic Healing, Master Co said that they used vodka because it still had the qualities of the alcohol but not the smell or harshness of rubbing alcohol. I also add lavender when I use the spray. The point was that if you were cleaning and scooping out dirty energy, you would want that cleansed from your hands before energizing otherwise you could send it back into the client. However, there are other methods to do so if you don't like the spray.
The crystalline structure of the salt attracts and holds the energy, which is why some people use it for cleansing and why you would treat it as "dirty" afterwards.

DesertWolf wrote:When I was taught Pranic Healing, Master Co said that they used vodka because it still had the qualities of the alcohol but not the smell or harshness of rubbing alcohol. I also add lavender when I use the spray. The point was that if you were cleaning and scooping out dirty energy, you would want that cleansed from your hands before energizing otherwise you could send it back into the client. However, there are other methods to do so if you don't like the spray.
The crystalline structure of the salt attracts and holds the energy, which is why some people use it for cleansing and why you would treat it as "dirty" afterwards.

How prudent would it be to use a vodka spray around someone who is, say, an alcoholic? Vodka still has a distinctive odor, even if it isn't as harsh as rubbing alcohol.

I personally prefer methods that are more discreet/less intrusive. I remember doing the training and feeling frustrated because of the need to constantly use the spray (and if I forgot, the teacher was quick to remind me.)

Having an alcohol problem myself, i gotta agree with you Dana. Kinda reminds me of an issue on Reiki4all. Folks where openely trying to align Reiki with the use of cannabis.

A person can do what they wish in private, even in spirituality, but to promote or encourage such things openly, would seriously impede an addict. Or, even an addict seeking training in said modalities.

Milarepa wrote:Having an alcohol problem myself, i gotta agree with you Dana. Kinda reminds me of an issue on Reiki4all. Folks where openely trying to align Reiki with the use of cannabis.

Really...?

I remember conversations, but I don`t remember anyone condoning a relationship between Reiki and cannabis...I must have missed something...Hmmm...

RJ

a start was in the 'Reiki and..' section. Under 'cannabis'. http://web.archive.org/web/20061021122303/www.reiki-4-all.com/index.php?showtopic=571 .

I wasn't neccesarily talking bout you. You obviously don't remember myself, on my own, debating for weeks against up to 10 folks at once against the alignment of Reiki & cannabis. folks saying of the link between drugs & spirituality for starters. that's ok, but saying it in a topic a 20 year old kid made, whom himself is feeling he may have a problem, was irresponsible to say the least.

Then we have topics like this... http://web.archive.org/web/20060110091001/www.reiki-4-all.com/index.php?showtopic=309 .

However, the most interesting topic was 'Reiki & marijuana' 'does it mix well or not'. Posted by Red Dragon. This is the one i choose to be active in. It's not available to view in the archive sadly. Red Dragon was a guy in his very early 20's, whom used Cannabis considerably. Through what members were saying, he certainly wasn't discouraged to feel that it would be better to stop using cannabis. The issue was, he actually wanted to stop. Him & I spent a lot of time in private discussing things, and i hoped he would do the right thing. Things were going ok, for a couple weeks, but the sheer weight of members arguing with me, plus, Remy's 'brainwave' of taking a stance against me since 'Holland has legalised it', was something i couldn't compete with. And he did go back to using it. Resigning himself to it. Course, rationalising it all the way.

I hope his pattern wasn't the same as mine. As i started with cannabis.

Take care
Wayne

Milarepa wrote:

I wasn't neccesarily talking bout you. You obviously don't remember myself, on my own, debating for weeks against up to 10 folks at once against the alignment of Reiki & cannabis. folks saying of the link between drugs & spirituality for starters. that's ok, but saying it in a topic a 20 year old kid made, whom himself is feeling he may have a problem, was irresponsible to say the least.

However, the most interesting topic was 'Reiki & marijuana' 'does it mix well or not'. Posted by Red Dragon. This is the one i choose to be active in. It's not available to view in the archive sadly. Red Dragon was a guy in his very early 20's, whom used Cannabis considerably. Through what members were saying, he certainly wasn't discouraged to feel that it would be better to stop using cannabis. The issue was, he actually wanted to stop. Him & I spent a lot of time in private discussing things, and i hoped he would do the right thing. Things were going ok, for a couple weeks, but the sheer weight of members arguing with me, plus, Remy's 'brainwave' of taking a stance against me since 'Holland has legalised it', was something i couldn't compete with. And he did go back to using it. Resigning himself to it. Course, rationalising it all the way.

I hope his pattern wasn't the same as mine. As i started with cannabis.

Take care
Wayne

Hi Wayne,

I know you weren`t talking of me...I remember our conversations. I saw the issue differently than you did then, and i believe I still do. Different things in the issue stood out for me...this being because, our experiences in the drug culture took different avenues. I also remember bailing out of the argument you were having with about 10 people. The reason I bailed was because people were misinterpreting a couple of things i said...It got twisted. I brought forth factual info i was aware of concerning tests done by the Canadian government in regard to the medicinal properties of cannabis and its use for certain aliments. People took this and made it into..."reikijim thinks it`s ok to smoke pot for recreational purposes"...I became disgusted at that point and split from the whole affair. Red Dragon I remember was a young fellow from Australia....if I remember right....and I also remember writing a post to him trying too keep him on a sober track as well....Is my memory serving me correctly...Or did i smoke too much pot in my twenties...and your name was...um... I had it a minute ago....


I thought you started with alcohol and tobacco...?

RJ

That topic seemed so long ago.
I learned a lot from that thread

Rlei_ki wrote:
many healers (spiritual or otherwise), are of the belief that on one level, washing the hands before treatment is about preventing the transfer of the healers's "stuff" to the client.

what is your belief on this?

Reikijim wrote:
I thought you started with alcohol and tobacco...?

Hiya,
Never been one for tobacco. I had my first taste of Alcohol when i was 9. There were 4 uses of alcohol between 9 & 16.

My drug use started with cannabis.

take care
Wayne