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    Shakti ~ Rising
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    Re: The Business of Spiritualism

    Post by Shakti ~ Rising on Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:22 am

    well it goes without saying that some things are cheap AND nasty.....clothes shoes furniture.....but you also get expensive and nasty.....price does not always reflect the quality ......Particularly when it comes to courses and therapies....

    ( the whole idea that more expense equates to better quality, is societal conditioning...and clearly it works 'cos people have become brainwashed!)


    I have paid a lot of money for various courses over the years....and that money has in no way been a reflection of what was on offer!....was I left pissed-off??.you bet.

    some of the most beautiful and profound healing experiences I have ever had have been for free.... FREE FREEEEE i tell ya!!
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    now I'm not suggesting that people should offer all their services for free, after all we all have to put bread on the table......but like dragonfly, I think its helpful to keep your prices down so as to benefit those that need it most..

    I have offered holistic therapies at a VERY reasonable price because I want single mothers and those struggling a little financially to be able to have a good therapeutic pamper within their reach... I don't want to treat the worried wealthy.......I want to treat the needy paupers! flower

    when it comes to Reiki I don't charge at all any more.....if people feel the need to offer me something in return then I'll glady accept..... I don't teach, but if I did I would definately keep the price within a realsitic and practical limit for those wishing to learn........

    and what are you really teaching anyway??...its ,more of a wake-up call we are offering... we are helping to draw back the curtains on the windows to the soul.....

    ( I get cheesier by the day)

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    Re: The Business of Spiritualism

    Post by Milarepa on Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:48 am

    Shakti ~ Rising wrote:
    I have paid a lot of money for various courses over the years....and that money has in no way been a reflection of what was on offer!....was I left pissed-off??.you bet.



    totally agree with you. My own experience with the 'Masters Master' left me paying back a very substantial loan. For a completely useless course.


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    Re: The Business of Spiritualism

    Post by Shakti ~ Rising on Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:53 am

    I almost borrowed 10 grand to do a healing course over over 4 years!!....thank goodness I saw the light after the first 1700 pound weekend course....EEK!

    some people work from their pockets and NOT from their hearts.... sadly.. No

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    Re: The Business of Spiritualism

    Post by Milarepa on Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:55 am

    Shakti ~ Rising wrote:I almost borrowed 10 grand to do a healing course over over 4 years!!....thank goodness I saw the light after the first 1700 pound weekend course....EEK!

    some people work from their pockets and NOT from their hearts.... sadly.. No


    you talking bout Reiki Alliance? I'd really be interested in why you decided aginast it. Either on here, or in pm. I'm genuinely interested in others views on this.

    Edit: if the weekend course was £1700 i doubt it was Alliance?


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    Re: The Business of Spiritualism

    Post by Shakti ~ Rising on Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:58 am

    no it was spiritual healing of a different lable....

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    Re: The Business of Spiritualism

    Post by Milarepa on Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:59 am

    Can you say what? I'm rela curious now bout the price tag.


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    Re: The Business of Spiritualism

    Post by Shakti ~ Rising on Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:03 am

    I just wrote another post but it hasn't showed up......I won't diss the person who's course it was out here, but I'll explain a little in pm....have to do that later thoough I need to get some housework done now....grrrr

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    Re: The Business of Spiritualism

    Post by Milarepa on Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:04 am

    Ok, cool.


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    Re: The Business of Spiritualism

    Post by Pandora on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:02 am

    I decided not to drop my prices, which (depending on your point of view) are either too much or too little! I did decide, however, to balance it out with my voluntary work at the hospice. And I'm getting money coming in whereas before I had none - go figure, as they say!

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    Re: The Business of Spiritualism

    Post by Milarepa on Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:11 am

    Pandora wrote:I decided not to drop my prices, which (depending on your point of view) are either too much or too little! I did decide, however, to balance it out with my voluntary work at the hospice. And I'm getting money coming in whereas before I had none - go figure, as they say!


    i'd bet, with your academic background, your manuals etc, are pretty good?


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    Re: The Business of Spiritualism

    Post by Dragonfly on Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:46 am

    There is nothing wrong with making money, and if you look at the Buddhist precept of "right livelihood", it is quite possibly a preferable way on moral/ethical levels to earn a living than many of the corporate types of jobs that are out there (mine included...lol) It has so much to do with your intention - if your primary purpose is to help others with their healing journey, you are coming from a better place in the process than "Oh, Reiki is getting popular - I can make lots of money doing this!"

    When I was looking for a place to rent space from for my Reiki sessions, I interviewed with the owner of a massage therapy practice. She immediately told me I wasn't charging enough and felt that if I rented space from her, I should raise my prices. Do I believe Reiki is worth the cost? Sure - but that was never my goal when I started this practice. My goal was to make it reasonably affordable for people, while ensuring my time was compensated (doing this is a calling, but it takes me away from my family and does come with expenses.) I just didn't feel comfortable raising my rates by at least another $20 to fit in with her business model. I probably would have built up a certain type of clientele, but not necessarily reaching the broad range of people I would prefer to reach.

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    Re: The Business of Spiritualism

    Post by Shakti ~ Rising on Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:48 am

    Pandora wrote:I decided not to drop my prices, which (depending on your point of view) are either too much or too little! I did decide, however, to balance it out with my voluntary work at the hospice. And I'm getting money coming in whereas before I had none - go figure, as they say!


    well it seems to be working for you but , I've just looked at your website, and 8o pound in my view is absolutely extortionate!

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    Re: The Business of Spiritualism

    Post by Pandora on Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:04 am

    Milarepa wrote:
    Pandora wrote:I decided not to drop my prices, which (depending on your point of view) are either too much or too little! I did decide, however, to balance it out with my voluntary work at the hospice. And I'm getting money coming in whereas before I had none - go figure, as they say!


    i'd bet, with your academic background, your manuals etc, are pretty good?


    I haven't actually applied my academic work to the Reiki yet! Let me explain.

    I've been lecturing at Uni level for nearly 10 years, which is different - more lecturing, information giving, encouraging reading around the subject, with one large assignment for each module.

    I need to take a more FE approach to the Reiki stuff: more structured homework, proper workbooks with space to record treatments, reflections, that sort of thing. Set books with questions, rather than just setting books and expecting people to read them.

    But that takes time and a particular mindset, and to be honest I'm waiting for the next round of recruitment for my Reiki classes to come round before I rewrite my modules on those lines.

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    Re: The Business of Spiritualism

    Post by Milarepa on Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:34 am

    I honestly think that's a shame! With your background, the academic stuff in Reiki would be fantastic!


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    Re: The Business of Spiritualism

    Post by Pandora on Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:14 pm

    Shakti ~ Rising wrote:
    Pandora wrote:I decided not to drop my prices, which (depending on your point of view) are either too much or too little! I did decide, however, to balance it out with my voluntary work at the hospice. And I'm getting money coming in whereas before I had none - go figure, as they say!


    well it seems to be working for you but , I've just looked at your website, and 8o pound in my view is absolutely extortionate!


    Oh I agree, but the clinic owner where I practise from (when I can be bothered) wanted me to charge £140!

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