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    Milarepa
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    Re: Transformational tools and techniques?

    Post by Milarepa on Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:16 am

    Pandora wrote:Well, taking all these posts into consideration, I would just like to say that the UK Reiki Federation is not the Reiki Council, nor is it the RRWG. It's one of the groups that walked away from there.


    It's not seperate groups, per se. The RRWg, whom became the Reiki council are the group whom have been trying to co-ordinate some regulation.

    Pandora wrote:
    I see nothing of what this guy posted appears on the UKRF website, nor in the NOS, nor in the Guidelines.


    Perhaps not in such an obvious way. He is th echair of the UK Reiki Fed, and is also in charge of research in UK Reiki Fed. So, without a doubt he influences the UK Reiki Fed.

    Pandora wrote:
    It is, however, very interesting that there are many versions of the Reiki story.

    One of the things which crossed my mind while teaching today's course was, why should I tell my students to teach the traditional Reiki story the way I learned it, if nobody can tell me what the truth is? Why should I perpetuate lies?


    This is a good point. Students will want to know the history of Reiki. It's why so many practitioners were crying out for traceable roots for many years.

    It's very, very simple. The truth is straight. It doesn't become convolouted, and it isn't contradictory. There's no lies in the truth. A person can see if any of these factors apply, if they stop taking things on face value, when a person claims them, and research themselves, they begin to see what's going on. We can do our own researchm but also network with others, such as on forums, and listne to what they say. Also not taking what they say on face value either. But gathering a large picture.

    It can seem very daunting. And i'll be honest Chris, it does become very, very upsetting. It's so demoralising to realise that fellow Reiki folks deliberately tell lies, in order to make money of our colleagues. I went through shock myself, then denial. I couldn't beleive that folks whom experience the divine like we do, could be so bad.

    I've mentioned this next bit befor,e but not openely used the name, but really, i'm telling the truth, so trust in God that way. This guy is the chair of UK Reiki Fed. sits on meeetings on Reiki in houses of parliament. And is head of research in UK Reiki Fed. Yet it was myself whom had to tell him, during th ecourse, what i should actually be gettign taught. I went to primarily recieve the initiaitons of Takata sensei, but experience the teachings also. I had serious concerns during the course, which i confronted him with. I was offered half refund, that's true. However, i'd already traveleld to london, had got the loan out, from a loan shark, so it was hard ot walk away from my objective. I was 1 day from recieveing the initiaiton procedures. I set my fears aside, and decided to stay. Anyhow, once i came back, i got the initiaitons checked out, and they were no way what Takata sensei taught. We argued bout this over the phone. He told me our agreement was i was to learn Western Reiki! Such a generic term! I was already a techer in Western Reiki. No way would i go through that for more crap. Thw whole idea was to recieve accurate Usui Shiki Ryoho teachings. He knew this, i made it clear throughout our initial discussion, months before i came over, and also during the course, it was only what Takata snesie taught that i wanted to learn. And definitely her initiations.

    I was tricked, and only i had the good fortune to be able to check things, i sitll may not have known. If me, a really novice researcher was able to know all this both in course, and within 2 days of coming home, i cna't beleive for one second that the 'masters master', 'longest practicing Reiki pracititoner alive', 'senior student to Soke Dai (lineage bearer to Usui sensei)', didn'nt know fully what he was doiung with me.

    People like this has infiltrated Reiki at it's highest levels, as in the UK Reiki Fed. This shows how much at the core, this problem is.

    Take care
    Wayne


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    Re: Transformational tools and techniques?

    Post by Reikijim on Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:00 pm

    Pandora wrote:Well, taking all these posts into consideration, I would just like to say that the UK Reiki Federation is not the Reiki Council, nor is it the RRWG. It's one of the groups that walked away from there.

    I see nothing of what this guy posted appears on the UKRF website, nor in the NOS, nor in the Guidelines.

    It is, however, very interesting that there are many versions of the Reiki story.

    One of the things which crossed my mind while teaching today's course was, why should I tell my students to teach the traditional Reiki story the way I learned it, if nobody can tell me what the truth is? Why should I perpetuate lies?


    Hi Pandora,

    I agree....good question. That`s why i`m not quite as interested in Reiki history as I was. I applaud people like James, Wayne, Colin etc., that continue to search. These guys do us a great favor offering information for us to look at. But I`m skeptical about teaching any Reiki history...quite a conundrum...

    I`m more comfortable talking a bit about who Usui was,and some of his more generally accepted accomplishments.

    Smile RJ

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    Re: Transformational tools and techniques?

    Post by renukakkar on Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:59 pm

    namaste,

    here is india, we do not have any such organisation controlling Reiki, like in other countries. perhaps it is because it is not a govt. recognised course(offered by a govt institute, recognised institute). monitoring is of those courses taught by societies /individuals which have govt. recognisition. things like aurvidic, unani, homeopathy etc come under their preview.

    maybe it is not possible to measure the progress of healing in those therapies which use spiritual/cosmic energies. perhaps it is good in a way as scruplous persons can have the nonsense they teach recognised and the genuine will get deprived from recognisation. there are many fraud teachers in the world even in places where regulations apply.

    a student had come from the uk in may '09 and learned reiki 2 from me ( he wanted to learn in 2008 when he came to india but that time i was undergoing a three months training in dharmshala, himachal pradesh) . on going back he submitted the certificate given to him by me to the uk reiki federation and those chaps took a week to 'examine' it and then recognised it. he will now come to india next year to learn reiki 3 from me also.

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