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    Transformational tools and techniques?

    Post by Pandora on Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:07 am

    The UK Reiki Federation's National Occupational Standards makes mention of "transformational tools and techniques" in their suggested syllabus for all 3 Reiki levels, without actually saying what they are!

    While I wait for a response from them (don't hold your breath - they take their time), does anyone here have any ideas?

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    Re: Transformational tools and techniques?

    Post by Reikijim on Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:16 pm

    Pandora wrote:The UK Reiki Federation's National Occupational Standards makes mention of "transformational tools and techniques" in their suggested syllabus for all 3 Reiki levels, without actually saying what they are!

    While I wait for a response from them (don't hold your breath - they take their time), does anyone here have any ideas?


    Hi Pandora,

    Just a guess, I`m not in the U.K. and not very familiar with the organization, other than it`s name and what it represents...But ,considering...Um...transformational tools and techniques may be... symbols and attunements?

    much peace,


    Smile RJ

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    Re: Transformational tools and techniques?

    Post by Rlei_ki on Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:14 pm

    Pandora wrote:... "transformational tools and techniques" ...does anyone here have any ideas?


    Reikijim wrote: Just a guess...Um...transformational tools and techniques may be... symbols and attunements?


    "transformational tools and techniques" is a phrase used by many complementary therapy / self-development oriented disciplines to refer to the various exercises, meditations, and other practices that define the particular modality.

    So, in relation to Reiki, this would presumably include, as Jim says, the symbols and attunements, and also the various developmental practices such as hatsu rei ho, gassho kokyu ho, makoto no kokyu ho, etc; and the numerous treatment-related techniques such as seiheki chiryo ho, ketsueki kokan ho, gyoshi ho, etc etc.


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    Re: Transformational tools and techniques?

    Post by Pandora on Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:54 am

    Rlei_ki wrote:
    Pandora wrote:... "transformational tools and techniques" ...does anyone here have any ideas?


    Reikijim wrote: Just a guess...Um...transformational tools and techniques may be... symbols and attunements?


    "transformational tools and techniques" is a phrase used by many complementary therapy / self-development oriented disciplines to refer to the various exercises, meditations, and other practices that define the particular modality.

    So, in relation to Reiki, this would presumably include, as Jim says, the symbols and attunements, and also the various developmental practices such as hatsu rei ho, gassho kokyu ho, makoto no kokyu ho, etc; and the numerous treatment-related techniques such as seiheki chiryo ho, ketsueki kokan ho, gyoshi ho, etc etc.


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    Thanks James - I was reaching that conclusion as they don't mention these practices anywhere else in their NOS! And thanks Jim too.

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    Re: Transformational tools and techniques?

    Post by Milarepa on Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:37 am

    Rlei_ki wrote:
    Pandora wrote:... "transformational tools and techniques" ...does anyone here have any ideas?


    Reikijim wrote: Just a guess...Um...transformational tools and techniques may be... symbols and attunements?


    "transformational tools and techniques" is a phrase used by many complementary therapy / self-development oriented disciplines to refer to the various exercises, meditations, and other practices that define the particular modality.

    So, in relation to Reiki, this would presumably include, as Jim says, the symbols and attunements, and also the various developmental practices such as hatsu rei ho, gassho kokyu ho, makoto no kokyu ho, etc; and the numerous treatment-related techniques such as seiheki chiryo ho, ketsueki kokan ho, gyoshi ho, etc etc.


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    humph. And no prizes for guessing the 'expert' that has decided what's what in UK Reiki Fed! May as weel get the tarot cards out next session. Laughing


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    Re: Transformational tools and techniques?

    Post by Pandora on Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:28 am

    Wayne, I'm new here. I ain't never gonna guess. So tell me straight please? Who was it?

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    Re: Transformational tools and techniques?

    Post by Milarepa on Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:26 am

    Hehe, i'll tell you in Pm. Smile


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    Re: Transformational tools and techniques?

    Post by Pandora on Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:48 pm

    Milarepa wrote:Hehe, i'll tell you in Pm. Smile


    No, Wayne.

    For the benefit of those who come after us and read this, please can you tell us all here?

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    Re: Transformational tools and techniques?

    Post by Milarepa on Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:24 am

    Well i could. I'll have a think about it, and some advice. It's a delicate subject in which both myself, and the other person threatened court action against each other. I threatened for him telling lies, and he threatened me for libel & slander.

    Then again, if i get on my soap box speaking bout Hiroshi Doi often, least i can do is speak about another 'expert' i know for a fact is a fraud.

    I'll let you know this evening, Smile.

    Take care
    Wayne


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    Re: Transformational tools and techniques?

    Post by Pandora on Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:01 am

    Well may I suggest that you refrain from making snidey remarks like that in a public forum? My mom used to say, "if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all".

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    Re: Transformational tools and techniques?

    Post by Milarepa on Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:35 am

    you can suggest it yeah. Those 'snidey remarks' are clear clues to whom it is, and i say it so other reiki practitioners won't get fleeced by him. so, as long as i'm forum owner, and it's in other practitoners clear interests, i'll make whatever comments i feel neccesary, Smile.

    It's not i can't say it say whom it is. It's that the situation got very unpleasant, and i thought to refrain from another court case with Reiki practitioners. I had to decide, that altough it wouldn't be on the scale of Furmoto/Ray or Rand/milner, did is still ultimately serve Reiki's image to the public. SO, the advice i was seekign today was form Reiki folk. And, it would have cost me a alot, as i was in Ireland, and would need to travel to London fo rcourt. I'd already lost out on £1600 in total, getting a loan out for that idiot course. i've been thinking today anyhow, that since i'm now in England, it's easier to follow up court.

    So, if you still wish me not to speak to you in private bout it, but want it on a public forum, i'l indulge. Let me know here please. I don't want to be labelled a someone making snidey comments about another, with no evidence. So, i'l give you first hand facts.

    Take care
    Wayne


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    Re: Transformational tools and techniques?

    Post by Milarepa on Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:10 pm



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    Re: Transformational tools and techniques?

    Post by Milarepa on Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:13 pm

    hey, that was my 1000th post! real useful post it was too!

    I dedicate it to Robert Jefford. Without whom i would never have even made that post. lol!


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    Re: Transformational tools and techniques?

    Post by Reikijim on Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:32 pm

    Milarepa wrote:Well i could. I'll have a think about it, and some advice. It's a delicate subject in which both myself, and the other person threatened court action against each other. I threatened for him telling lies, and he threatened me for libel & slander.

    Then again, if i get on my soap box speaking bout Hiroshi Doi often, least i can do is speak about another 'expert' i know for a fact is a fraud.

    I'll let you know this evening, Smile.

    Take care
    Wayne


    Hi Wayne,

    Say what you mean...honest and often...political correctness and avoidance make it impossible to keep issues straight...you go brother...

    Not speaking your mind, or not defending ones self, comes down to determining what can be gained or lost from the conflict.

    What is it worth to you and others personally, monetarily, to witness the conflict and result. Sometimes the prices is too high, and the risk too much.

    If a person is willing to act out against another, most times, if honesty is present, a wrong has been done, prior to the conflict...Sometimes wrongs need to be rectified.

    Wow...I did not know about this Wayne... fill me in by PM sometime...when you have the time of course.

    I will get off my soap box now... Rolling Eyes

    Smile RJ

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    Re: Transformational tools and techniques?

    Post by Pandora on Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:28 am

    Well, taking all these posts into consideration, I would just like to say that the UK Reiki Federation is not the Reiki Council, nor is it the RRWG. It's one of the groups that walked away from there.

    I see nothing of what this guy posted appears on the UKRF website, nor in the NOS, nor in the Guidelines.

    It is, however, very interesting that there are many versions of the Reiki story.

    One of the things which crossed my mind while teaching today's course was, why should I tell my students to teach the traditional Reiki story the way I learned it, if nobody can tell me what the truth is? Why should I perpetuate lies?

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