I was discussing the symbols on a norwegian reiki forum, and came across a guy who had been initiated into "traditional" reiki and learned 6 symbols that apparently came from Usui.
I asked for an explanation, and on level 3 he learned raku, dai ko mio soul (which he said was known as the master symbol) and dai ko mio group.
After pointing out the raku was an addition from raku kai, we started the discussion on the dai ko mio variations.
However, the boy is not very learned in the art or much of a researcher and could not tell me more than repeat that he learned these symbols.
He has also refused to give me his lineage, which would be easier to see where these additions came from.
After searching the web with no result, i ask the forum here for help.

Has anyone come across dai ko mio group symbol?? is it different from the "standard dai ko mio" (大 光 明) and what lineage is it from?

thank you

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fshortt wrote:..who had been initiated into "traditional" reiki and learned 6 symbols that apparently came from Usui.
I asked for an explanation, and on level 3 he learned raku, dai ko mio soul (which he said was known as the master symbol) and dai ko mio group....
Has anyone come across dai ko mio group symbol?? is it different from the "standard dai ko mio" (大 光 明) and what lineage is it from?

Hi Frank,

Personally, I've not heard the descriptions "dai ko myo soul" or "dai ko mio group" before.

However, as this guy has been taught the Raku symbol, it is quite possible that the other dai ko myo he was taught is also from Raku Kei Reiki (or possibly 'Usui-Tibetan' Reiki)

So there is a good chance he is talking about the pseudo-Tibetan 'master symbol', known as 'Dumo'

There are actually several slightly different dumo's

Diane Stein's non-traditional DKM (bottom left) is actually an alternate version of Dumo





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Thanks James, same thoughts i was having,
but the guy doesn't seem to know the style he was trained in - he believes it is traditonal reiki...
however, I will see if i can get him to show the symbols to me,
in the mean time, i did refer him to your work (and a few direct links to your papers on symbols, styles, and reiki history.

thanks for the prompt answer.

kind regards
frank

fshortt wrote:
but the guy doesn't seem to know the style he was trained in - he believes it is traditonal reiki...

ask him to come on here. i'm sure we can point him in the right direction. Once we find out what 'traditional Reiki' is ourselves, hehe.

Milarepa wrote:

ask him to come on here. i'm sure we can point him in the right direction. Once we find out what 'traditional Reiki' is ourselves, hehe.

Haha, yeah i couldn't agree more.... what i meant was that he believes that all 6 symbols originate from Usui and he calls it "traditional".
I did suggest for him to come on here, with the rest of the forum (only 189 members) as it is great to expand our knowledge across borders and styles, and of course not to forget the serious intrest in reiki we find amongst the members here. Has been a great help to me.



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i know what you meant bro, . I was gonna come up with some smart-ass comment bout Usui Shiki Ryoh being the traditional style, but didn't. Or have i just done it? Hehe.

Hey, getting 189 other forum members to 'defect' to us. Tut-tut! Psst, we're giving you acces to our 'black-ops' department. You sounds like a perfect candidate!

seriously, thnaks for your thoughts!

hehe you crack me up. (but seriously, black-ops here i come!)

just think its a great space to expand our knowledge, and here people are into that. honest and critical.

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you know Frank, i was just saying that there now, to other members. This forum is unique in many ways. we can have easy-going chat, or, we can have very in-deep, complex debates, about many or single concepts. It's realy, really good stuff!

indeed

Milarepa wrote:Psst, we're giving you acces to our 'black-ops' department. You sounds like a perfect candidate!

Aw heck Wayne - now you've gone and done it!
You above all others should know the rules about the 'black-ops' department:

1st rule: You do not talk about the 'black-ops' department

2nd rule: You DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE 'BLACK-OPS' DEPARTMENT...



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Haha - U guys

I have learned the bottom left symbol as Tibetan DKM and the "original/normal" Usui DKM + Raku.

I use TDKM like shown and reverse. I feel it is great reverse, to remove pain and dissease, and as shown to give light and love.

It was giving to me by my master as an ekstra tool and I was very happy to get to know it.

In my linage I have William Rand and I think it comes from him. It is NOT an Usui symbol at all. But it is good to have in the toolbox

I wonder when someone uses the word "Traditional Reiki" that they are referring to Western Reiki?

I attended a conference once and someone was saying that modern allopathic medicine was Traditional. When asked why they thought this - the response was "It was the only form of medicine that they knew."
If you spoke to a shamanic healer they would also say they are traditional. So it just comes down to your points of reference, and common definitions of terms.

what I am finding interesting is that there are so many different symbols out there on the Reiki market, some very different , yet they all seem to work????

how can this be??????
whats going on? ????? ?

and now my own symbol of mind being boggled

but really folks...... whats going on.......if there are 'original' symbols within Reiki....why is it that symbols which are not 'original' still work?

we all know there are many paths to 'god' aand now it is very very clear to me that there are many symbols to Reiki, yet no matter the lineage or symbol used they all appear to work???

WHY????????? I've always considerd the symbols as keys to specific doors of perception, but how is it that so many different key cuts fit the exact same lock??

someone help me out here ???