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    Attunements for young people

    Post by Reikijim on Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:22 pm

    Hello Folks,

    I recently met a Reiki Master who was conducting classes and attunements for little people between the ages of 9 and 13. It didn`t seem to make too much sense to me at the time.

    I have met a few youngsters that have a particularly beautiful spirit and glow about them, yet for most of our young folks, I just can`t seem to understand the need.

    I think what bothers me is the permanence of the initiation. I do not believe that this path of reiki to be for everyone, and should be entered into with some understanding of what one is deciding to undertake. Does a 9 year old have the ability to comprehend the aspects of this path?

    I would like to hear the opinions/views from our members and staff regarding this sort of thing...Please enlighten me if i fail to see the benefit of such classes.

    With much interest...

    Smile RJ

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    Re: Attunements for young people

    Post by Pandora on Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:46 pm

    Well I don't see why they shouldn't be attuned, unless their parents don't want them to be. After all, if they don't use it they will lose it. Reiki can only do good.

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    Re: Attunements for young people

    Post by Rlei_ki on Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:54 pm

    Pandora wrote:...After all, if they don't use it they will lose it.


    some might disagree. Smile

    The following is from John Harvey-Gray's newsletter, 'Hand To Hand', in which he presents extracts from a Q&A session with Takata-sensei:

    Question: If for some reason one fails to do Reiki for a period of a month or so, does one lose the power?

    Takata: That is a good question. No, once you have the “contact” through me [she was the only Master at that time], Reiki stays with you everlasting....

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    Re: Attunements for young people

    Post by Milarepa on Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:55 pm

    Reikijim wrote:Hello Folks,

    I recently met a Reiki Master who was conducting classes and attunements for little people between the ages of 9 and 13. It didn`t seem to make too much sense to me at the time.

    I have met a few youngsters that have a particularly beautiful spirit and glow about them, yet for most of our young folks, I just can`t seem to understand the need.

    I think what bothers me is the permanence of the initiation. I do not believe that this path of reiki to be for everyone, and should be entered into with some understanding of what one is deciding to undertake. Does a 9 year old have the ability to comprehend the aspects of this path?

    I would like to hear the opinions/views from our members and staff regarding this sort of thing...Please enlighten me if i fail to see the benefit of such classes.

    With much interest...



    Interesting topic, Smile . I know someone whom attuned their 11 year old daughter. It was more out of a need for physical healing than anything else. The 11 year old is very mature, and quite spiritual anyhow. Whether a 9 year old is mature enough to understand, i guess that'll depend on what way the parent & Reiki teacher understand Reiki to be also, Smile.

    I know my own two kids i have here, they're 6 & 7. They've wanted to be taught Reiki for near two years now. It's still far too young to me. I know some teachers whom teach special classes to kids from 5+.

    Take care
    Wayne


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    Re: Attunements for young people

    Post by Reikijim on Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:03 am

    Hi Pandora,

    Pandora wrote: Reiki can only do good.


    I think generally speaking, this is a true statement. Yet I`ve heard of a few cases where such was not the case.

    We make many decisions for our children, and of course, gradually, over the years we expect them to take responsibility for themselves. If we are sensitive to who they are, our kids, as adults become happy in their own skin and can navigate in society in a productive, mostly joyous manner. Really though, I do not believe that everyone is destined to be spiritual, Honestly some of us are destined to drive bulldozers and drink a lot of beer....look around you. So...My point is....whats the point of predetermining/influencing a child in this manner, when quite possibly they need a little more time to grow and define themselves, in hopes that they expose their true nature.

    Regardless, of this. thanks for your response!

    Smile RJ

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    Re: Attunements for young people

    Post by chi_solas on Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:25 am

    There are now Reiki books out for children
    my grandchildren are very much aware of
    Reiki since they were toddlers. One of my
    grandchildren when in Kindergarten would
    do Reiki on his class mates when they got
    injured. The only problem his mother had
    was that parents might be upset if a name
    like Reiki was used during this process.
    He is now in 4th grade I asked him a few
    weeks ago does he still do Reiki. He gave
    me his usual glowing smile and said no.
    His sister who is in the 6th grade and does
    horseback riding does use Reiki with her
    horses. Neither of them are attuned but they
    are both very much in-tune with their healing
    ability as is their younger brother. People
    who are not attuned to Reiki use Reiki every
    day. People who are attuned to Reiki are very
    much aware that Reiki is free, its our time
    and the tools we use to facilitate that's valuable.

    children & animals are natural healers. Look at
    the smiles that animals & children bring to the
    forefront. Nursing homes always welcome animals
    & children they sure add another demension to a
    lonely environment. sunny


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    Re: Attunements for young people

    Post by Milarepa on Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:52 am

    chi_solas wrote: People
    who are not attuned to Reiki use Reiki every
    day.


    If this was the case, Usui sensei wouldn't have needed to have his expereince on Kurama Yama, Smile .

    All healing isn't Reiki, as in interacting with our own divine spark, particularly in the way it does in Usui Reiki. Usually, it takes many, many years of diligent practice to be able to access our divine spark in such a way as in the Reiki expereince, without Reiki initiation.

    As Usui sensei had a divine expereince, he was able to use his knowledge, and have the ability, to access and pass on this blessing. Without this, the experience would not be as comnmon as might be presumed, Smile . And was surely why he felt he needed to do this in the first instance.

    take care
    Wayne


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    Re: Attunements for young people

    Post by Pandora on Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:07 am

    Reikijim wrote:Hi Pandora,

    Pandora wrote: Reiki can only do good.


    I think generally speaking, this is a true statement. Yet I`ve heard of a few cases where such was not the case.

    We make many decisions for our children, and of course, gradually, over the years we expect them to take responsibility for themselves. If we are sensitive to who they are, our kids, as adults become happy in their own skin and can navigate in society in a productive, mostly joyous manner. Really though, I do not believe that everyone is destined to be spiritual, Honestly some of us are destined to drive bulldozers and drink a lot of beer....look around you. So...My point is....whats the point of predetermining/influencing a child in this manner, when quite possibly they need a little more time to grow and define themselves, in hopes that they expose their true nature.

    Regardless, of this. thanks for your response!

    Smile RJ


    Well I'd love to know how Reiki has harmed people...

    and I drink a lot of beer and build beer festivals...

    I was a spiritual healer as a child. I used to lay my hands on my friends and they'd ask what I was sending them, and tell me that my hands were hot. I remember putting my hands on my mom's broken washing machine, which sprang into life!

    I think if Reiki had been available to me when I was a child it may have helped me integrate this ability better. I found it very, very unsettling and confusing. My mom was suspicious (even if she was a devout Christian) and told me at one stage it was evil and I was not to use it. Luckily for me, I was going through my rebellious phase so I ignored her - at least until I witnessed a miracle happen in front of my eyes, and I was so blown away I ran from everything spiritual.

    I think everyone is here to be spiritual. We are spiritual beings having a physical experience. If Reiki does anything, it unlocks the spirituality, which can only be a good thing.

    To answer James's point about it always being there, I liken it to not using your left arm. It will gradually wither and become useless, but will still be there.

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    Re: Attunements for young people

    Post by Milarepa on Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:14 am

    Pandora wrote:

    and I drink a lot of beer and build beer festivals...



    yes. but what we all want to know is..

    do you also drive a bulldozer? lol!

    P.S. how did you Reiki class go?


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    Re: Attunements for young people

    Post by chi_solas on Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:17 am

    [quote="Milarepa"]
    chi_solas wrote: People
    who are not attuned to Reiki use Reiki every
    day.


    If this was the case, Usui sensei wouldn't have needed to have his expereince on Kurama Yama, Smile .


    That's because we are mixing the Reiki system with ULFE
    My grandchildren were using ULFE not Reiki as in Usui Reiki
    I do not use spiritual/divine when using the Usui Reiki system.
    I was drawn to Reiki because it had no Religious/spiritual
    trappings. Divine spark is a new term to me. Since I became
    a RMT many people do consider it to be Religious/spiritual or
    divine. Our ability to tap into the same energy that Usui tapped
    into is always there. Innate /natural healing works even when we
    are unaware of it's dormancy. Usui Reiki assists us to go deeper
    into our most inner self. When we find our inner self that's when
    healing happens, often its refered to as a miracle.

    If you think about your hands and their ability to help sooth a
    sick child,comfort a friend, and so on. People have been doing
    that since the beginning of time. Like Pandora said she was doing
    it since she was a child, like many others they did not have a
    name for this strange ability. Usui put a name to what we do and
    he developed a system for its use. Even today some will call Reiki
    snake oil healing. I like other Reiki practitioners know better we
    have experienced finding our inner self in different subtle ways
    that's what Usui Reiki is all about.


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    Re: Attunements for young people

    Post by Reikijim on Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:14 am

    Pandora wrote:

    Well I'd love to know how Reiki has harmed people...


    Well....as a representative of Reiki, and a claimed natural healer....I think quite possibly, you might want to do some research to find out.

    I actively look for information that I may not agree with, as it enlightens me, and helps me to grow. Some cannot handle differing opinions with much tact or acceptance...it`s about personal attachment....this is part of my path in growing....

    I`ve read all your posts, and from that, I believe that we will disagree on many things.

    Let`s keep it friendly. Shall we?

    Pandora wrote:
    and I drink a lot of beer and build beer festivals...


    That`s great, and I bet it`s quite a bit of fun too...

    I`ve worked in construction since I was 17.....met a considerable number of beer drinking, bulldozer drivers. Funny thing, they never impressed me as being that interested in spiritual enlightenment or Reiki for that matter,generally speaking, but yes there can be isolated exceptions.

    My reference was an attempt at humor, nothing more. I hope I didn`t offend any beer drinking bulldozer operators.


    Smile RJ


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    Re: Attunements for young people

    Post by Thaak on Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:15 am

    Reikijim wrote:Hello Folks,

    I recently met a Reiki Master who was conducting classes and attunements for little people between the ages of 9 and 13. It didn`t seem to make too much sense to me at the time.

    I have met a few youngsters that have a particularly beautiful spirit and glow about them, yet for most of our young folks, I just can`t seem to understand the need.

    I think what bothers me is the permanence of the initiation. I do not believe that this path of reiki to be for everyone, and should be entered into with some understanding of what one is deciding to undertake. Does a 9 year old have the ability to comprehend the aspects of this path?

    I would like to hear the opinions/views from our members and staff regarding this sort of thing...Please enlighten me if i fail to see the benefit of such classes.

    With much interest...

    Smile RJ


    I think you are dwelling too much on the term "permanence".

    If a child's parents deem their child mature enough to handle Reiki, then I see no problem in initiating them to it if the child wants it.

    Flu shots are also permanent. And yet parents subject their children to them all the time without the child's permission.

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    Re: Attunements for young people

    Post by Thaak on Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:16 am

    Pandora wrote:Well I don't see why they shouldn't be attuned, unless their parents don't want them to be. After all, if they don't use it they will lose it. Reiki can only do good.


    They won't lose it. It will just not grow if they do not use it.

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    Re: Attunements for young people

    Post by Thaak on Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:18 am

    Reikijim wrote:Hi Pandora,

    Pandora wrote: Reiki can only do good.


    I think generally speaking, this is a true statement. Yet I`ve heard of a few cases where such was not the case.



    And I would argue it was not Reiki that caused the harm. No matter how the story is described.

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    Re: Attunements for young people

    Post by Thaak on Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:21 am

    Reikijim wrote:
    We make many decisions for our children, and of course, gradually, over the years we expect them to take responsibility for themselves. If we are sensitive to who they are, our kids, as adults become happy in their own skin and can navigate in society in a productive, mostly joyous manner. Really though, I do not believe that everyone is destined to be spiritual, Honestly some of us are destined to drive bulldozers and drink a lot of beer....look around you. So...My point is....whats the point of predetermining/influencing a child in this manner, when quite possibly they need a little more time to grow and define themselves, in hopes that they expose their true nature.

    Regardless, of this. thanks for your response!

    Smile RJ


    Is it ok for a Parent to subject their child to a Religion? That seems to be a very common choice. And in some religions, if you find a significant other (and god forbid if it is a homosexual relationship) not of that faith, they frown at it and sometimes will excommunicate you.

    Additionally, I've met many folks who have been attuned to Reiki who I wouldn't consider overly spiritual either.

    All an attunement is is a seed. An initiation. It is up to each individual on whether they nurture that seed and allow it to grow.

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