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    Chris528
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    Post by Chris528 on Thu May 28, 2009 9:32 pm

    I'm not quite sure what area to put this in so I figured this one would do. I was attuned to level 2 in January this year. After this second attunement me and the Master who attuned me began dating. She recently stopped calling me back. When I tried to talk to her at her work she called the cops. Sent me a text later saying that she had a boyfriend now and to stay away from her. The second attunement teaching was never completed during the entire time from January until now. I've learned almost everything I know from books and the handouts she gave me. I do not have my certificate for level 2 either so I can't take classes from most people because I can't proove that I was attuned, nor do I feel comfortable calling myself a practitioner and working on people without the certificate. So I might have to pay to get another attunement. I feel abandoned and hurt. I'm not even that upset about not dating her anymore. I just feel abandoned for no reason. There was no hostility between us at all when she stopped calling me. I know it sounds like more happened but that's really it. She will not return any of my calls and I am somewhat reluctant to go to the bookstore she works at to even ask her if I can just have part of my money back or something. She hasn't returned the email I sent. I'm really trying to just let it go but that's not going so well. I just thought I'd write about it here and vent some and hopefully get some helpful feedback on what to do. Is this sort of thing allowed in the Reiki community? I'm at a loss of what to do and am honestly very angry at the moment. She was a great friend to me and a huge part of one of the biggest changes I've had in my entire life. One of the best and most spiritual changes I've ever had. I'm really upset that things are being tainted in this way and that someone who I held in such high regard, who I thought had so much integrity seems to have none, at least as far as I'm concerned. Being treated like this by someone who seemed like one of the best friends I ever had is really hard at the moment.
    I really just needed to vent about it some. Any feedback on this would be greatly appreciated.

    I apologize for the somewhat negative content of all of this. On the positve side- now that I wrote this and found this forum I don't feel so bad or alone.

    Milarepa
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    Re: Frustrated student

    Post by Milarepa on Thu May 28, 2009 10:51 pm

    Hiya Chris,
    Warm welcome to the forum!

    You've no need to apologise for sharing what you did. The reason we're all here is to help each other, and you're more than welcome to write what you feel, Smile .

    I can understand the way you must be feeling. There's a few points to look at...

    Technically, if a student hasn't completed the required aspects of the course, the teacher can, and does hold off the certificate. In your case, the second part of level 2 hasn't been completed. Now, at least, this is as much to do with the teacher, as it is with you, via the personal relationship...

    ...Setting aside this is one of the 'issues' that can arise from a personal relationship with a teacher, in my own opinion, the teacher has a duty & responsibility to complete the training, should the student wish it. This takes precendence over any personal issues, imo. Particularly if you've already payed for it! It's highly unprofesssional what the teacher is doing, from what you've wrote here.

    Re: the certificate. The certificate may only be an obstacle to you dojng Reiki professionally as many insurance bodies want to see your certificate. A certificate doesn't make a person level 2, the initiaion is what makes this initially. You're being proactive in all this, and learning what you can, this is real good. In Reiki, the most important things we have, is our connection to 'Reiki', and the Gokai, the 5 principles. And, of course, a willingness to expereince Reiki as much as possible. These are the 'vital' things, and you have them already. check out www.aetw.org , and place 'level 2' in the google site search. There's a lot of info on the site, so take your time, and feel free to always ask as many questions as you want here. Every one of us here is learning, Smile .

    Re: Is this allowed in the Reiki community. That depends. If the teacher is an independant Reiki teacher, in some ways they can do this. If they belong to an organisation, a Reiki 'school' then they' have kinda 'code of conduct' perhaps. If they have insurance, of belong to a body such as UK Reiki Federation, they'll also have codes of conduct. It might take some digging to find that out. Practitioners & teachers need public liability & 9some beleive) professional indemnity insurance, quite often a Reiki person will join an unbrella Reiki or alternative therapy organisation via membership to do this. They'll come under the organisations membership guidelines. If you don't know the teachers, perhaps try google. Or, contact the main Reiki body in your area for advice.

    Where are you from anyhow? Perhasp if you spoke to some local teachers, and explained the situation, some may help, via training. Be aware what way you put it acroos, the Reiki community can be very small at times, Smile .

    It's my own opinion, that many teachers take too lightly the concept of a student. I feel this is a natural by-product of 'conveyor-belt Reiki'. A student, probalby for the first time, expereinces their own divinity, and it's a life-changing path. A teacher should be there for the student always, and should certainly never, ever, let personal feelings get in the way of being there for the student. When that happens, it's no longer about the students spiritual expereince & growth, but more about the teacher. Students aren't here for teachers ( in this sense), the teacher should be here for the student.

    Take care
    wayne


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    Re: Frustrated student

    Post by thehungrycaterpillar on Fri May 29, 2009 6:03 am

    HUGS!!!!!!!!!!!

    My best wishes!!


    sunny

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    Re: Frustrated student

    Post by Chris528 on Fri May 29, 2009 11:49 am

    Thanks for your response Wayne. Thank you too hungrycaterpillar... here's some leafy foliage for your hunger ^^^^ <those are leafy tidbits.
    I'm feeling much better today. I'll definitely be around this site from now on.

    Very Happy

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    Re: Frustrated student

    Post by thehungrycaterpillar on Fri May 29, 2009 11:54 am

    Chris528 wrote:Thanks for your response Wayne. Thank you too hungrycaterpillar... here's some leafy foliage for your hunger ^^^^ <those are leafy tidbits.
    I'm feeling much better today. I'll definitely be around this site from now on.

    Very Happy



    Very Happy

    Thanks, that was delicious!
    Happy to have you here!

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    Re: Frustrated student

    Post by Milarepa on Fri May 29, 2009 11:56 am

    Chris528 wrote:Thanks for your response Wayne. Thank you too hungrycaterpillar... here's some leafy foliage for your hunger ^^^^ <those are leafy tidbits.
    I'm feeling much better today. I'll definitely be around this site from now on.

    Very Happy


    Your welcome, Smile .


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    Re: Frustrated student

    Post by chi_solas on Fri May 29, 2009 2:02 pm

    It is best to transfer to another RMT. flower

    Teachers should never date their students. No


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    Re: Frustrated student

    Post by chuglet on Fri May 29, 2009 11:53 pm

    chi_solas wrote:It is best to transfer to another RMT. flower

    Teachers should never date their students. No



    I gotta agree with Bridget on this one..the boundaries become too blurred..

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    Re: Frustrated student

    Post by Pandora on Sat May 30, 2009 12:23 am

    I must agree with Bridget and Chi - IMO the teacher has been guilty of some very unprofessional behaviour. She should have passed your Reiki support on to another teacher once you started dating.

    You do have one option, though. If you have a copy of your lineage (which you should have from Level 1) you could go to your master's Master and discuss things with him or her. It may be that you could be accredited through this person.

    By the way - thanks for coming here, I'm sure you'll find us an accepting and welcoming bunch!

    Blessings

    Chris528
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    Re: Frustrated student

    Post by Chris528 on Sat May 30, 2009 3:59 am

    I went ahead and contacted the RMT that she learned from. I've actually wanted to do this for a while because I felt I was not getting proper support from my teacher. I even heard my teacher suggesting so someone else that they take classes from her teacher once. I was thinking "why doesn't she suggest that for me?"
    Oh well whatever. I'm more than sure that all of this has to do with some karmic thing of past lives me and my teacher had. We have a very interesting sort of energetic link (part of the attraction). She made comments about how I affected her energetically in ways she's never experienced (not just sexually ;p). I know we've known each other for much longer than just this time around. Every reading I've ever had that addressed that issue supported my thinking. I probably did all this to her or something that time around Rolling Eyes

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    Re: Frustrated student

    Post by hialeah on Sat May 30, 2009 7:15 am

    Chris,
    Thanks for postitng your experience. You've shown why teachers should not date their students. The energetic link between student and teacher is (imho)a necessary part of the training and I think it is the responsibility of the teacher to keep it in context of the training. The student in their openess and eagerness to learn may not make the best decision in this area. They may mistake the closeness they feel to their teacher as romantic.

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    Re: Frustrated student

    Post by Pandora on Sat May 30, 2009 8:22 am

    Chris528 wrote:I went ahead and contacted the RMT that she learned from. I've actually wanted to do this for a while because I felt I was not getting proper support from my teacher. I even heard my teacher suggesting so someone else that they take classes from her teacher once. I was thinking "why doesn't she suggest that for me?"
    Oh well whatever. I'm more than sure that all of this has to do with some karmic thing of past lives me and my teacher had. We have a very interesting sort of energetic link (part of the attraction). She made comments about how I affected her energetically in ways she's never experienced (not just sexually ;p). I know we've known each other for much longer than just this time around. Every reading I've ever had that addressed that issue supported my thinking. I probably did all this to her or something that time around Rolling Eyes


    Reiki heals karma, and it heals situations. (It may not be quite as you expected though!) Try sending distance reiki with HSZSN to the past life situation between you and this person and see what happens.

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    Re: Frustrated student

    Post by Thaak on Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:02 am

    Pandora wrote:

    Reiki heals karma, and it heals situations. (It may not be quite as you expected though!) Try sending distance reiki with HSZSN to the past life situation between you and this person and see what happens.


    I agree with Pandora on this one. You've been initiated.

    There are several texts out there, including William Rand's handbook for 1st and 2nd level Reiki, that you can buy, essentially, off the shelf. They have all the symbols in them, discuss how to use them, et. al.

    So you can certainly intend for the energy to work on the past (even past lives), present, and future, through time and space.

    But you must do so without expectation of anything specific to happen. You might actually impede the energy work some, if you intend something that shouldn't or wouldn't normally happen. No, "I send Reiki to the past so she and I will get back together."

    Just send the energy out with intent for the greater highest good of both of you, and the situation. Things will resolve themselves in due order. Even if the resolution is simply helping you to move on.

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    Re: Frustrated student

    Post by Milarepa on Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:25 pm

    Off-topic discussion on 'Can Reiki be sent to past & future' has been moved to new topic of that name.


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