Hello Reiki Forum

Those who have been following my thread concerning that reiki master and my question as to whether reiki can be misused please if you can help me now please do.

About 3 this afternoon I began feeling about as horrible as a person can feel...physically....and emotionally....just totally yukky. This is not normal for me. I am not some drama queen and am not looking for attention but this is so unusual for me to feel this way and for it to come on so suddenly and...no...i do not have the flu...and no...i did not eat something that was old or that could make me ill....and nothing unusual was happening....just straight out of the blue i began feeling like total death.

The thing is that this reiki master when he was sending me positive and healing energy this is exactly how the energy came to me....suddenly and out of the blue....but of course it was wonderful and healthy and made me feel just great and wonderful and it would go on for a long long time.

So that all of a sudden this "came on" but such a horrible way of feeling makes me wonder if this is not as i have suggested and that this man is able to use reiki improperly.

About the only thing different is that last night i finally stopped fantasizing that this man ever loved me and as a couple of very sober friends of mine have been trying to convince me to let go of him well i was not able to till last night. After i did i felt very relieved and had no feelings of loss about the only feelings i did have were that how i could have been taken in by this man and all the time i had wasted. But that was ok because i realized that this was a lesson i had to learn and ok so it took some time. Also i was thinking and i forget if i shared here that this man informed me about a month or so ago that this woman he had been having a long term once a month sexual relationship with when he dumped her last november for me she had a complete psychotic break and he told me she had lost close to 40 kilos and was still in a mental hospital. So ok he almost drove me nuts and he did drive this other woman nuts for sure and i then began to think that this man is 59 years old and two women in one year it just seemed a bit strange and then i got to thinking that it is quite unlikely that me and this woman who do not even know each other are the first two he has done his best to damage. I mean patterns develop over long time and so i figured he has likely been damaging women for a very very long time and this bothered me.

There of course is nothing i can do as he lives in Germany and i live very far from there. He has one of the most responsible jobs highly respected jobs and i know very little about him and i do not believe there is anything i could do to stop him as i am sure i wont be the last but i know i cannot stop him. I do not speak German my job is ok but no way as prestigious as his the bottomline is at least on paper he comes across as a much more reliable and repectable person and i have no clout and if he has harmed other women i would not know who they are as i do not even know the name of this woman he drove insane last november.

I wrote him last night and basically told him to leave me alone and stay out of my world and never bother me again.

So thats the story. Please help me if you can as i feel so horrible but of course i sure as hell cannot go off and complain to the authorities that i am being abused by some guy that is sending me negative energy my god they would lock me up lol.

fluugy

fluugy wrote:Those who have been following my thread concerning that reiki master and my question as to whether reiki can be misused please if you can help me now please do.
fluugy

Hi Fluugy.

Reiki as an energy or energies is unique to all other forms of spiritual healing energy/energies as it may only be used for healing.

How can you be so sure that this is the case? Excuse my near total ignorance insofar as reiki is concerned. And no offense intended but this sounds like DOGMA and no room for any discussion. Perhaps it is just my personality but I have lived for 61 years and I cannot think of anything that I know of that I have ever experienced or whatever that I know for sure to be ABSOLUTE TRUTH although for instance there are many born again christians and I am sure at least some of them are not uneducated people who believe the Bible was originally written in English and that Jesus was from Manhatten but those who follow their version of ULTIMATE TRUTH will all tell you that no matter what a swell person you are and all your life has been devoted to helping others putting the needs of others above your own which at least for me is the only acceptable definition of love yet if these good and righteous people refuse or even worse if they never heard of Jesus and do not accept him as their lord and personal savior they will roast forever on the eternal BBQ of hell. For them this is THE TRUTH.

So obviously i am not one who is much of a believer when you or anyone tells me that Reiki or anything else can only be used in positive ways. About the only thing i am convinced of is that reiki is extremely powerful. I do not pretend to know why nor is it important for this discussion. I have personally witnessed the power of reiki and another thing...i do not care if you wish to call it reiki or call it something else...and i do not care that the truly dogmatic have this thing about how closely one who becomes a reiki master is in some way aligned to that guy who i cannot remember his name but it is sort of like that whole Catholic thing where the Catholics maintain there is some unbroken chain starting from Peter supposedly the first pope and all popes who have succeeded that original one and also all catholic priests without exception when they become priests come from an unbroken chain of bishops and somehow that makes their efficacy at absolving sin authentic. Ditto with this reiki guy and the closer your teacher was to that orginal guy the more authentic you are as a reiki master. Sorry for me reiki or any sacred sort of thing as all people have within their innermost core that spark of divinity and there are no masters no one is better than anyone else and for those who have the need to follow the rules of some self appointed guru well if this is important to them if this makes them feel more like it is real or perhaps for some it is like going to Harvard rather than spending 4 years at some second rate state college. I did go to Harvard not bragging as when i was there it really was no big deal as everybody i knew went to Harvard so no big deal and none of my friends ever made a big deal out of it. Sure some people i knew thought is was so impressive but i never did. Few things impress me but reiki does and other energy work and alternative medicine in general when i know it is not just some scam. I have seen some amazing "miracles" happen with reiki and other non mainstream healing methods and i only wish i had known about these things a long time ago for if i had and believed it was not just a bunch of voodoo i am convinced my beloved husband would still be alive but i did not but i do now.

So thanks for trying to reassure me that my feeling like death warmed over has nothing to do with anyone's ability to hold sway over me but sorry i do not feel that reiki cannot be misused. To be perfectly honest i think this man has been misusing reiki on me from the very first time he did use it on me. For you see...he tried and tried to get me to love him and i just felt nothing for him other than sure he was a nice guy but i sure as hell would not have left my home and all i knew and travel to Germany for this man as i felt nothing for him that would have me do such a thing. No way not even if he had tons of money and i knew he would treat me like a queen as i am not like that no way can i be bought but once this man pulled his reiki on me i was so overwhelmed with the most otherworldly love that i was as putty in his hands. This was all a trick to get me to come to be with him for his own purposes which were anything but for my best interests. So yes...even the love and healing which he did with me was reiki used to control a person who is not easily controlled but as i said reiki is very powerful and totally overpowered me like nothing in my life done to be unable to resist my doing whatever he wished i do by way of having me so so sure that he loved me so much and i this almost destroyed me which was his intent as it was with that other woman who sadly was not as strong as i happen to be and she apparently is unlikely to ever recover from whatever heinous things he did to her.

To me it is logical that this man now since i have told him to go away and leave me alone is not so happy about this and being so deranged he continues to attempt to destroy me.

Hypnosis is similar very easy to learn and also like reiki if one is any good at it is a most powerful tool much better than all other forms of therapy concerning overcoming personal challenges as well as other things. It is very much a tragedy that one can take a week end hypnosis course and be able if they have any talent at all to do good or bad by the following monday. No license required and the horrible damage i have seen when hypnosis gets into the hands of evil people. Ditto with reiki.

fluugy

Hi Fluggy,
what was told to you wasn't Dogma. It is many, many years of first hand experience from many different Reiki folks. Our opinion is highly valid because we work with & experience Reiki every single day. It's a cornerstone of our life. Whilst we may not understand Reiki as much as some of our fellow Reiki folks, we do just might understand it a bit more than someone who doesn't work with it. Partiuclarly someone whom has an axe to grind. Which leads me to my next comment....


You have got your mind made up about Reiki. Which is your right. And we here are not going to attempt to change your mind. For a couple of reasons. First, it's obvious you wouldn't change it anyhow. And second, we dont' really want to anyhow.

Your last topic was locked by admin. And you have now made a similar topic, again sharing your beleif about how terrible you regard Reiki. Repeating a lot of similar stuff. Please dont do this when admin lock similar content topics. This is a pro-Reiki place. and while we firmly beleive in everyone having a right to speak, I myself, feel you have issues with this guy, and are using a platform, such as this forum to indirectly exact angst. I'm tied into our concept that all opinions are welcome. I want to remind you of our tagline 'The Reiki Learning Lounge offers a healthy and relaxing casual environment to cultivate optimal individual growth.'.

I'm not going to lock this topic. Other staff might decide to, that's their right. I am looking at these posts with my admin hat on though. The forum wont be a sounding board for personal grievences which has much more substance to do with an individual relationship than it does with Reiki. On that basis I must ask for a change in your posts. You wont find the answers you have convinced yourself of here. Perhaps they might be elsewhere

warmest wishes
Wayne

fluggy, you are the only person who can
heal your relationship. Reiki can assist
you if you are open to being honest with
yourself. When a client comes to me for
Reiki, I do not need to know what illness
or personal problems that they are having.
I can assist them work on their INNATE
healing. Innate healing comes from within.
Nobody can think in your mind but you, there
fore only you can change what goes on in your
life.

You need to talk out your problems with a
professional DR trained to assist people move
through thiskind of relationship that you are
commplaining about.You have so many issues to
work through.Reiki can support you if you are
genuinely seeking help. You also need to let go
of that which is dragging you down.

#1
you need to seek professional help to sort out
all the issues you mention above.
#2
If you want Reiki in your life, you need to familiarize
yourself with the 5 precepts of Reiki. The precepts are
a guide to keeping your daily life in balance and harmony.
They encourage you to practice....
Not get angry
Not worry
Be grateful
Work Honestly
Be kind to others

Reiki is more than relaxation. It involves creating a lifestyle
of peace, balance and harmony within ourselves.

I have failed in my attempt to get across my intent here. I think reiki is terrific. I have no axe to grind against reiki. All i am trying to say but somehow i might as well be speaking some language that no one understands here and that is that it seems to me that reiki which i believe is something extremely good and positive and i would love to learn all about it as i am a good person and my profession is one that one thats focuus is to help others and this is what i have done all my life. All i am saying is that evil people can learn divine things or helpful things and use it for terrible purposes. And this is what i think this man is doing and this is a very bad thing to do. it is well known that some not so nice people love to hide behind the pillars of goodness wolves in sheeps clothing making it easier for bad people to damage. For the final time then please lock this thread i think reiki is wonderful i have seen the wonderful healing power of reiki so i am in no way putting down reiki what i am saying is that people beware of those who learn how to use its powers and instead of using it for good as intended do just the opposite.

Chi-Solas and Wayne, well said.

Fluggy, the thing you are claiming Reiki does just doesn't do it. it doesn't work like that. maybe your remote controlling training in the past would do such a thing on a human, but Reiki doesn't. Reiki simply wont make another person do something they dont want to.

you might find more value in looking at personal responsibility. I know it works wonders for me.

This subject is now closed. Please refrain from making further claims. i'm not locking the topic, but i advise you that this is a place to learn about Reiki. With people who are interested in it. The staff, and indeed the members, take great care in creating and building a positive atmosphere. This is the way it will remain.

warmest wishes
Wayne

fluugy wrote:I have failed in my attempt to get across my intent here. I think reiki is terrific. I have no axe to grind against reiki. All i am trying to say but somehow i might as well be speaking some language that no one understands here and that is that it seems to me that reiki which i believe is something extremely good and positive and i would love to learn all about it as i am a good person and my profession is one that one thats focuus is to help others and this is what i have done all my life. All i am saying is that evil people can learn divine things or helpful things and use it for terrible purposes. And this is what i think this man is doing and this is a very bad thing to do. it is well known that some not so nice people love to hide behind the pillars of goodness wolves in sheeps clothing making it easier for bad people to damage. For the final time then please lock this thread i think reiki is wonderful i have seen the wonderful healing power of reiki so i am in no way putting down reiki what i am saying is that people beware of those who learn how to use its powers and instead of using it for good as intended do just the opposite.

Hi,

I skimmed your posts...sounds similar to things I`ve read before from others...

You seem convinced that someone is doing something against your will in an invasive manner...I understand...been there.

You have to ability to change this, with just you`re intention...You are in control of what and when...in your life.

Take responsibility for this situation...stop it/ believe that this person can have no negative effect on you and it will cease...

Playing the victim means nothing changes...

Wayne is upset with you because Reiki plays no part in this...an individual attuned to Reiki seems to be the problem...Seperate the man from the medicine, and you may get somewhere with your problem...One thing is certain from your comments; You believe he has the power to do this to you...You need to believe that you have the personal power to stop it...AND YOU DO...

Jim

Look...i was all good and fine about dropping this whole thing but since others seem to feel it is ok to continue with it...i shall put in my FINAL words here on the subject then if i choose to ever post again it will be only to learn more about reiki and never again discuss this man or this issue...guaranteed.


Edited by Bridget 9/27/2011

inappropriate posting

Hi Fluugy,
Admin locked a topic and you began another with the same content. I've asked you twice in this topic to change your posts though you have made another. I'm looking at your post above mine. If that is the way things are cool. you are welcome.

If i see any personal crap, with you once again ignoring staffs wishes, then in-line with our Terms of Service i'll ban the account. And, all other accounts i even remotely sense as being you. Without further warning.

wayne.