Hi.
I was supposed to see a Reiki master/shaman for help--and found out recently that this man is quite physically ill.
I feel like I'm brand new to the Reiki world (got a Reiki 1 in Usui Reiki about a month ago--but got Reiki 2 in another style 6 years ago.)
My question is this: why do good reiki masters get bad illnesses they can't cure themselves of?
Don't get me wrong--I'm not trying to blame the victims here. But if the people I goto for help in curing my ailments can't cure their own ailments (with either Reiki OR western medicine)--how am I (or you) supposed to cure myself?
I mainly pose this question because (as some of you know) I've struggled for years in trying to develop my full reiki potential.
And now that a respected reiki master/shaman is too sick to help me--I wonder if there's anyone who can (I endure chronic daily migraines--though my reiki master/shaman is enduring something much worse.)
Respectfully,
Pete

prdean111 wrote:Hi.
I was supposed to see a Reiki master/shaman for help--and found out recently that this man is quite physically ill.
I feel like I'm brand new to the Reiki world (got a Reiki 1 in Usui Reiki about a month ago--but got Reiki 2 in another style 6 years ago.)
My question is this: why do good reiki masters get bad illnesses they can't cure themselves of?
Don't get me wrong--I'm not trying to blame the victims here. But if the people I goto for help in curing my ailments can't cure their own ailments (with either Reiki OR western medicine)--how am I (or you) supposed to cure myself?
I mainly pose this question because (as some of you know) I've struggled for years in trying to develop my full reiki potential.
And now that a respected reiki master/shaman is too sick to help me--I wonder if there's anyone who can (I endure chronic daily migraines--though my reiki master/shaman is enduring something much worse.)
Respectfully,
Pete

Hi Pete, sometimes we look for others
to heal us. We all have the ability to
heal ourselves. A Reiki practitioner
is just a facilitator. when anyone gets
physically/emotionally/spiritually ill, it
helps if they can seek the help of another
person to help them through the needy times.
There are many factors that enter into our
daily lives that cause distress that leads
to illness. When we can see our way clear to
identifying the cause of our illness then we
can heal.

Hi Pete,
Did you contact the shaman we spoke about? Just asking as it's a she.

I'm probably the only person who feesl he is immortal. The rest of you are still human. Even with Reiki. Hehe.

Though to me, with Reiki. There's often tooooooooo much focus on others. And not enough on oursevles. initiating too many people. Initiating too many at Master level. Treating others (in various ways). And not experiencing Reiki for the personal spiritual path it is.

warmest wishes
Wayne

Milarepa wrote:


Though to me, with Reiki. There's often tooooooooo much focus on others. And not enough on oursevles. initiating too many people. Initiating too many at Master level. Treating others (in various ways). And not experiencing Reiki for the personal spiritual path it is.

Hmm very interesting view. This actually makes most sense to me, more then anything else I have read on this subject. Thanks for sharing

I do find this topic quite interesting though, and something I have been wondering myself, so will be interested to hearing more peoples views on this.

Hi Wayne.
Yes--I've been trading emails with the shaman you recommended to me--but she didn't reply to my last email sent over a week ago--so I sent her another email today just to check in with her.
In my initial post, I was referring to the shaman my Usui Reiki instructor recommended--who apparently is still ill.
Wayne--may I ask what you mean when you say "There's often tooooooooo much focus on others. And not enough on oursevles. initiating too many people. Initiating too many at Master level. Treating others (in various ways). And not experiencing Reiki for the personal spiritual path it is."
How is there too much focus on others? And are you saying the quality of reiki is being diluted by initiating too many at the master level?

Thanks,
Pete

prdean111 wrote:
How is there too much focus on others?

By training & treating others. And not focusing on ourselves. The reason why this is important ois becuase of the process that are different in the above mentioned.

prdean111 wrote:
And are you saying the quality of reiki is being diluted by initiating too many at the master level?

Not the quality. Something might be diluted though.

It's this assumption that even 'if' something is universal that somehow folks take it is unlimited. Everything is universal in that it comes from this universe. Yet not everything will last in it's current form.

How much of my physical body must i share before i have none left. Likewise, how much of me in any form am i able to share before it effects me.

Ya know. At the very least, folks need to look into what is happening in Reiki - before they make a judgment. And we're all impressionable. Like everyone else in society, we tend to go with the accepted belief. No matter how assumed it is. The more accepted it is the more it 'seems' true.

I haven't the answers. Only got my own view, piecing together snippets of circumstantial evidence.

I know folks need to take on board what lineage actually means. And how this relates to the whole process of Reiki.

warmest wishes
Wayne

P.S. Maggie might be doing some personal stuff. I dunno Pete, . She may be away from the internet.

The reason for the illness could be many different things. If you want to look at it energetically the person may be feeling the changes that are happening right now and their spirit is telling the person something through the illness. Looking at it physically, the person may be experiencing an ailment that needs to be looked at. Just a few thoughts.

reikihealer83 wrote:The reason for the illness could be many different things. If you want to look at it energetically the person may be feeling the changes that are happening right now and their spirit is telling the person something through the illness. Looking at it physically, the person may be experiencing an ailment that needs to be looked at. Just a few thoughts.

it has been said that some people
thank their illness saying it has
changed their life for the better.

i can appreciate that. Is the same true for you?

Milarepa wrote:i can appreciate that. Is the same true for you?

Very much so. As I worked through my
healing journey, I left the pack and
and all the cultural stuff that no
longer served me.

To all,
Thank you all for the interesting posts responding to my question--I'm enjoying reading this board (as always.)
One comment on Chi Solas' comment: you said "it has been said that some people thank their illness saying it has changed their life for the better."
That statement makes me think of 2 things: 1) pain is your body trying to tell you something (according to the medical experts--i.e. MD's); and 2) I wish I knew what my body was trying to tell me!!

prdean111 wrote:To all,
Thank you all for the interesting posts responding to my question--I'm enjoying reading this board (as always.)
One comment on Chi Solas' comment: you said "it has been said that some people thank their illness saying it has changed their life for the better."
That statement makes me think of 2 things: 1) pain is your body trying to tell you something (according to the medical experts--i.e. MD's); and 2) I wish I knew what my body was trying to tell me!!

Pain or other symptoms is the
bodies way of asking for help.
Sometimes you have to sit down
and just ask what is the problem
here.The answer may be changes
need to happen. I told my body
what the medical experts wanted
to do and then I told my body
what I wanted to do. Together
we decided to go with alternatives.
I started with the help of a good
nutritionist and when changes started
to happen I knew I was on the right
track. My intuition was paying off. I
continued to pursue alternatives
including Reiki.

according to Louise Hay symptoms
are only an outer effect that has
a probable cause. We need to go
within to get to the root. It has
been my experience that Reiki and
the practice of the 5 precepts help
change dis-ease and brings balance
and harmony to the self.

Chi Solas,
Thank you for your post--it was very helpful.
I will try to practice the 5 precepts more often (sometimes it's not easy!)
On that note, perhaps practice is definitely the key--I practiced reiki last night for an hour--and I only had to take 1 pain med today (I usually take 3--the pain was markedly less severe!)
Yay Reiki!

i got to know Reiki in September 2005. In January 2006 a long-overdue court case meant i was put into prison again. This time for 4 months. Being in that hell-hole wasn't nearly as bad as ususal.

I self-treated with Reiki for 3 hours per day. It was great! Damn it, i might actually do it again. 3 hours, not prison! Haha!

Point is buddy, you got Reiki. You've got a first hand proof of it's effects. So give yourself maybe 2 hours a day at least. For 14 days.

It'd be cool for us to know your progress. We kinda all share one anothers journey a little here.

warmest wishes
Wayne

there is a reason why some great healers are unable to heal themselves......because it is related to their 'duty of service to others'.......I read a fascinating story years ago about a healer who had a wonderful gift for healing others but she could never eradicate her own physical symptoms.......too long to post my thoughts on it now......another time.....