...yep more questions!!

The resaon I ask this is because I was watching the Bill Hicks story the other night and I was struck by what an intelligent man he was and also by how spiritually aware he was... and a lot of his spiritual awareness was a result of his dabblings with certain mind expanding drugs..

For many years I used to post on a forum that a lot of old acid heads frequented...there were some absolutely fascinating topics discussed!! those old boys were extremely intelligent, and exceptionally creative and spiritually aware..this was definately a positive consequence of their acid days....

In the 60's people from all walks of life were experimenting with acid and other mind expanding drugs, it was a revolutionary period in so many ways...old mindsets were crumbling and shifting, social and political retraints and barriers were being broken down....and people were discovering the power of Love and 'God' consciousness through the medium of mind expanding drugs....this time period brought forth such a temendous surge in creative genious and spiritual awareness...

IN the paper recently has been articles about a bloke called Steve Jobs, he helped create Apple Inc.. He said that his acid trips were 'one of the two or three most important things' he had done in his life. And many people who took acid would say the exact same thing.

I've only ever taken acid once! and I have to say for me it wasn't exactly a pleasant and mind expanding experience.....I had what one might call the proverbial 'bad trip'..EEK! some parts of it were quite lovely but for the most part I quite literally thought I was going to die and not see morning. When morning did eventually arrive ( thank goodness) I puked up on the ground then my puke started to heave back at me, it wasn't exactly all Love and Light!...my body had such a bad response to it that I was left ill in bed for a week afterwards!! It's fair to say I was left a bit disappointed ahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!

I'm grateful now that I had such a bad trip, because it has inspired me more to find ways of opening my doors of perception, which are far more gentle.

But as we all know Mother Nature has provided her offspring with all manner of tools to help them spiritually evolve..and many weird and wonderful plants have been utilised for their mind expanding properties for thousands and thousands of years.....

Now, getting back to my original question, Is Reiki like safe Acid?? I would offer a resounding YES!..a couple of years ago I offered Reiki to a friend of mine..during the session she just felt extremely calm and relaxed...but I told her that Reiki doesn't end when the session ends......and that she might experience various effects over the next couple of days. Well that night, she said she started to feel waves of energy fluctuating through her body, and she said it felt like an acid trip coming on!!!she found it really lovely....

If we look at the creative and revolutionary impact that acid had on the consiousness of folks back in the 60's, what then does Reiki hold for the creative and evolutionary impact of this current and future eras???

an excellant topic! It's actually linked to where i will be embellishing the topic on 'does reiki crete chemical changes within us?'.

I hear ya with the acid thoughts. i'll not advocate drugs, but i'm reading some pretty neat stuff from Robert Anton Winston. Speaks of his trips with Tim Leary, etc. These folks are pretty damn intelligent.

I gotta go take a Reiki trip, but i'll watch this topic with interest. Many thanks for bringing it up1

If your reading material related to Tim leary, then I'm sure you'll be aware about his relations with Richard Aplert AKA Ram Dass!?

Ram Das' story is quite a remarkable one! My Reiki Teacher told me about the story of Richard meeting an old Indian Guru...and how this Old Man took a handful of acid trips out of Richard's bag and then feigned choking and rolling his eyes flailing around having a reaction to the tabs...then he sat up and winked at Richard!! hehe, it was the begining of the end of acid for Richard...

I got so much family stuff coming up over the next couple of weeks, won't get time to play around on this machine much...but hopefully others will have some interesting imput...

Hi,

Carlos Castanada...I believe thats the correct spelling...read some of his books during my late teens...He talked alot about O.B.E.`s induced by naturally grown hallucinogens...and other shamanic fun stuff...

It was interesting reading way back when...I cannot remember details, as it`s been 30 years since i read his stuff...But it did leave an impression apparently, as I still remember him talking about having the ability to see your dian tien much clearer while under the influence of natural hallucinogens...

Jim

Reikijim wrote:

as I still remember him talking about having the ability to see your dian tien much clearer while under the influence of natural hallucinogens...

Jim

i need to lose a few pounds before i can see mine!

Milarepa wrote:

Reikijim wrote:

as I still remember him talking about having the ability to see your dian tien much clearer while under the influence of natural hallucinogens...

Jim

i need to lose a few pounds before i can see mine!

Hi Wayne,

Oh my...

The last time you sent me a pic, you were buffed with big biceps, lookin` tough, and in very good shape...

Funny thing...since I`ve gotten into Reiki, I have no need to watch my weight...Reiki changed things for me. No eating out of boredom or stress, and no craving for food after 6:00pm...A wonderful..."side effect"...and most certainly another indicator as to how Reiki, at times, can help us balance our reactions to our own bodies, not to mention the world around us.

jim

Reikijim wrote:

The last time you sent me a pic, you were buffed with big biceps, lookin` tough, and in very good shape...

Was that the naked one? you make me sound like the forum pin-up, hehe.

Milarepa wrote:

Reikijim wrote:

The last time you sent me a pic, you were buffed with big biceps, lookin` tough, and in very good shape...

Was that the naked one? you make me sound like the forum pin-up, hehe.

Ah...no...you had your cloths on...you must have sent the naked pic to another fortunate soul...lol..

Anyways...I was slightly envious, as you looked as though you were in superb shape at the time...once an athlete, always an athlete...we just move a little slower with time...

Finally...Congratulations Wayne...I do believe I read here somewhere that you were tying the knot...I wish you and your family all I can in happiness and peace...

Jim

Reikijim wrote:

Hi,

Carlos Castanada...I believe thats the correct spelling...read some of his books during my late teens...He talked alot about O.B.E.`s induced by naturally grown hallucinogens...and other shamanic fun stuff...

It was interesting reading way back when...I cannot remember details, as it`s been 30 years since i read his stuff...But it did leave an impression apparently, as I still remember him talking about having the ability to see your dian tien much clearer while under the influence of natural hallucinogens...

Jim

I've never read his books, but have come across some of his subject material via other other sources. Theres a reason why natural mind expanding plants have been used for thousand of years...when they have been used in a sacred manner ie( with the intention with which they were meant to be used) they have been perfect tools for 'cleansing and opening up our doors of perception' but the process is quite fast and quite severe! which is why our ancestors often had guided 'trips' with a mentor ( shaman/priest/priestess) who could help them through the process. For some people it was the only way they could have direct experience of realities beyond the 'normal sense perception'

Sacred plants have been a part of every culture on the planet throughout history and prehistory ......my personal belief is, that through the experiences gained via these sacred plants...some human beings acquired the knowledge and ability to develop particular practices which helped develop spiritual awakening in a far more gentler way...

We have so many incredible plants on our beautful planet....some have amazing mind expanding properties, yet they have all been banned by 'the powers that be'...hmmm now why is that?? is it because those people that want to control us through religion and politics, would become redundant when people are able to expand their minds, have direct experience of 'god' and other realities and therefore become free to think for themselves?? imagine a world where people really did think for themselves?..what a wonderful world that would be!

Thankfully though you can't keep the 'Great Spirit' of life muted for long, we have so many great tools for spiritual awakening that does not involved the taking of 'illegal substances'...thanks to the great fire starters of spiritual truth, we have all manner of paths and practices...one of the greatest ( for me at least) has been Reiki!

( I'm wafflin )

Milarepa wrote:

Reikijim wrote:

as I still remember him talking about having the ability to see your dian tien much clearer while under the influence of natural hallucinogens...

Jim

i need to lose a few pounds before i can see mine!

ahaha me too! even me muffin top, has a muffin top!

Hi Sharon,

I agree...using a plant with the intention of having a spiritual experience, instead of using it to numb the senses, bring on a giggle, or pointless hallucination changes things...

I am talking from experience...and yes, it might be wise to have a Shaman handy as a guide... My experience was intense...Actually I would go further and make the claim that one needs knowledge and an experienced supporter present to be on the safe side...not something to play with for giggles...it can bring on change...

I opened a door, then I closed a door, but now i have witnessed whats behind the door, and the memory/experience had an effect on me...change...

Jim

well they do say a change is as good as a rest! ahah...did you embark upon you 'trip' alone and unsupported/guided?
~

I went to my bookshelf this morning before going to work ( I work in an art gallery and get plenty of time to read) and asked for something intersting, my hands were drawn to this book..The Alchemy of Culture, Intoxicants in Society, by Richard Rudgley....

I bought it a few weeks ago and stuffed it on my bookshelf and forgot all about it...well what a very pleasant and interesting read it is turning out to be.....quite synchronistic considering my current mind frame...