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    Reikijim
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    Re: Reiki & Sociopathy or Psychopathy

    Post by Reikijim on Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:09 pm


    Hi Wayne,

    Milarepa wrote:

    Re: Sexual crimes. I'm not as knowledgeable in this as other crimes, but i've lived alongside sex offenders in prison. A factor with them is that when they were young the acts were possibly the only human contact they got. Many will feel that this is an appropriate way, perhaps the normal way, of showing affection. One sex offender i met in prison, i asked him why he done what he did. He told me he loved his daughter, but in the wrong way. In the UK, this is why the prison service has the SOTP (sex offender treatment program). The offender cant seem to understand how inappropriate their behaviour is. Yes, they will know it is illegal, but that is different from them feeling whether they should act a certain way or not morally. This is equally valid to ordinary offenders, and indeed sociopaths.

    Warmest wishes
    Wayne


    I met a person like this also. When we got to discussing her relationship with another person that i felt was inappropriate...I was told that..."You don`t understand love between two human beings"

    So sure, we have intellectual or moral stop signs, possibly taught to us by example, but also I believe we may have protective traits that are instinctive towards our kids...these instincts seem to be absent as well ..

    Ya know it was very frustrating to be around these folks and not be able to do much for them...there were alot of anxiety prone moments where I belive reiki could have been a great benefit.
    Yet, after some time I wondered about the affects of reiki to initiate change in someones life. A few years ago when i was treating others daily, a noticeable amount of my clients were having realizations about all the things that didn`t work for them in their lives...We all know that reiki does this well. It can allow us to step aside and view ourselves almost from a non personal point of view, which can give us the opportunity to see ourselves with more honesty...the fear is removed from what we may find, so its safe to look.

    dahrmabytes and I are in agreement that some of these people have have become sensitive to their environment in a way that others are not.I have wondered if they can sense on some level that to accept reiki is to possibly initiate change in their lives that they cannot control. I know some of these people have tried intensive couselling and walked away, some after years of therapy..."no faith in the system"...no doubt a factor, yet i have told that to "fix the past you have to relive it, and I`ve been trying to forget it my whole life, so the psychologists can kiss my..." I don`t think some can face it, and i`m not sure how one should feel about that considering what they have already been through.It definitly presses my compassion button...



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    Re: Reiki & Sociopathy or Psychopathy

    Post by Milarepa on Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:25 am

    When i got involved with Reiki, it was to heal my drug addiction. What is also done was give me a conscience. Something i never had before. Typical of course with sociopaths. That conscience gave birth to incredible guilt and personal responsibility. The sociopathic ways were greatly lessened from that.

    Sociopaths, being only really concerned with themselves, it was typical i only thought of myself to sort out. The pain i caused the rest of the world wasn't important. Yet, as Reiki will of course do, it affects many areas of ones life.

    So, even someone like a sociopath, if they experienced Reiki for whatever selfich reason, for abolutely whatever reason could be devised, it may create a magnificent catalyst. Something they really never expected, but totally turned their life around. I know it did for me...

    Can Reiki cure or help such a condition? As you're all going to read once i post within the hour, this life certainly has made a marked difference. An exceptional one. Said factually, with no ego.

    Should Reiki be used to help such people?
    Of course. From the most terrible existence something great can grow. The idea that people on a spiritual path would collectively feel sociopaths should not have the chance i have had, would be abhorrent.

    If it is a question of safety, the option is there to bring Reiki into a controlled environment for them. Be it prison or mental hospital.

    This is possibly some things to look at with socipaths & Reiki.

    warmest wishes
    Wayne


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    Re: Reiki & Sociopathy or Psychopathy

    Post by Sunflower on Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:54 am

    cheers Cheers to you Wayne, for being so courageous, and so bold here. Even for those who were never sociopaths, wouldn't we admit that our natural compassion has blossomed-- and in some cases, truly become a dominant part of us now?

    Odd, amazing insights happen during giving Reiki. Once I had to treat someone whose nasty, hostile behavior I was truly irked by. I was honestly even judgemental about her behavior. As I started to treat her, something amazing happened. I could very clearly feel and understand the woman's stress, helplessness, and fear in those situations where she acted out. I ached at her vulnerability, felt her stress and helplessness and inability to cope. I was suffused with a deep love and warmth and I only wanted to soothe, heal, comfort, and protect her. All this just from a quickie Reiki treatment.

    Now if a sociopath were giving regular treatments, might that open up his or her compassion channel, and permit them to sense things from another's perspective, allow them to empathize, to care-- to love? I'm not sure. But I can imagine it might increase awareness and perhaps foster compassion.

    Thank you for being brave enough to share, Wayne!

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    Re: Reiki & Sociopathy or Psychopathy

    Post by Milarepa on Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:11 pm

    thanks sunflower. I'd wrote my other being born topic earlier. took me ages, then fo rsome reason i was logged out as iw as posting it, so i lost it. i've took that as it's not right to share atm.

    you've made a great point, bout compassion. this i wil share. i never cared for anyone except me. such a selfish, nasty person really. i got into reiki to help my drug addiction, out of pure survival. this was itself selfish, cause i couldnt give a shit still about anyone else i'd hurt, only myself. i also never wanted to leave gangs fully then either.

    what reiki done, within days, was give me immense guilt, which i still have, and i think i don't want not to have sounds crazy, and i've been told to try to get rid of it. here;s the thing, i never give a shit for so long, now i do, extremly. it feels important to me, maybe theraputic to have the guilt. this wil prob not be understandable to most. extreme way of being for an extreme past. anyhow, with responsibility came conscience & guilt. i'm pretty normal now, maybe with some quirks sure. i'm very easy going, becuase i;ve expoerienced so much extreme stuff, not much fazes me. i do tend to speak my mind, and talk very direct. this is mistook sometimes as me being upset. Other than that, i feel pretty normal. Reiki helped me be normal, and it has been quite a novelty.

    if one was to approach a sociopath offer reiki with a view to them feeling compassion, i wager they'd not be interested. if however, it was offered in some way that appealed to their selfish interests, then it might be accepted. I dunno, perhaps as a relaxation experience, maybe just to get out of the prison cell, it doesn't matter really. what is great bout reiki is that it will toch other unexpected parts of ones live of it's own accord. that's the bigger picture.

    Even sociopaths experience weak points in their lives, it's then that they'd be most approachable, prob best in controlled environment. however, there are varying degrees of how sociopaths act, and not all are violent. a distinction must be made between them and psychopaths.

    wamrest wishes
    Wayne


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    I'm only interested in invalidating my own views. So gimme a hand..

    www.civilianpersonalprotection.co.uk
    www.combatingcrime.wordpress.com



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    Re: Reiki & Sociopathy or Psychopathy

    Post by Pachamama on Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:39 pm

    just reading those links you posted again Wayne.....

    haven't read all your blog sections...but one thing that comes to mind for me when thinking of gangs..is that 'oneness of gang consciousness' that comes to the fore in riot situations.
    I waffled on again, sorry to go off on a tangent on this very inetersting thread..I should have popped this somewhere els. geek


    Pachamama...............
    your wonderful posting has been moved
    to the coffee section under the heading
    Sociology 'Oneness of gang consciousness'


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