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    Christian propaganda against reiki

    Post by fshortt on Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:58 am

    Not sure if its in the right forum, but here it is:

    I am not sure why, but I did a search on google and came across many christian sites that are trying to link reiki to demonic and satanic ideas.
    Reading the site it is very obvious to anyone with common sense that they obviously do not know what they are talking about, but I am sure it will scare away many potential practitioners with this propaganda - it made me laugh at first... here is a link, there are many and easy to find, some so full of fantasy.... I'll let you all read for yourself - at any rate this is a full on propaganda war hehe, and I think if it is responded to it will only feed into this distorted perspective.

    http://www.christianreiki.eu/Page1_eng.htm
    http://www.spiritbattleforsouls.org/id27.html
    http://www.sign2god.com/folders/demonic-possession.html
    http://www.probe.org/site/c.fdKEIMNsEoG/b.4222355/
    http://www.songoftheprophet.com/Reiki.html
    http://www.jesus-reiki.eu/Reikidemons/page3.htm



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    Re: Christian propaganda against reiki

    Post by LightBody on Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:25 am

    I think that one possible answer is explored quite well in the movie "The Man From Earth" written by Jerome Bixby.



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    Re: Christian propaganda against reiki

    Post by Rlei_ki on Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:13 am

    fshortt wrote:
    - at any rate this is a full on propaganda war hehe, and I think if it is responded to it will only feed into this distorted perspective.


    I feel we must not overlook the fact that there are a growing number of Christians who take a quite different view of Reiki

    And there are several websites which now seek to promote a Christian-centred understanding and acceptance of Reiki

    such as:

    Reiki for Christians

    Christian Reiki Healing

    Christian Reiki

    Christ the Healer



    Smile


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    Re: Christian propaganda against reiki

    Post by fshortt on Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:16 am

    cheers for that Buck, will check it out.

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    Re: Christian propaganda against reiki

    Post by fshortt on Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:17 am

    Very true James, we can only hope that sanity will prevail. Smile

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    Re: Christian propaganda against reiki

    Post by chi_solas on Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:48 pm

    Pope John Paul II supported reiki
    http://www.reikilinetour2009.com/poland-history.html


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    Re: Christian propaganda against reiki

    Post by queen of clean on Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:49 pm

    flower
    My cousin is a christian and doesn't understand reiki at all. She will not even consider anything that God hasn't "approved".
    I said "Jesus was a healer" and she hung up. flower
    queen

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    Re: Christian propaganda against reiki

    Post by chi_solas on Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:41 am

    queen of clean wrote: flower
    My cousin is a christian and doesn't understand reiki at all. She will not even consider anything that God hasn't "approved".
    I said "Jesus was a healer" and she hung up. flower
    queen


    My experience with the christian
    faith that I was brought up in
    was very strict.We were taught how
    to think what we could and could
    not do and that stifled many ways
    of experiencing my world. As a
    doubting Thomas I broke away from
    organized religion and had to learn
    what life was like beyond the
    confines of my religion. I had much
    catch up to do and my path in life
    changed for the better. Formal Reiki
    came much later.

    bounce sunny

    I know other folks who are not practicing
    any religion and they are skeptical of
    Reiki....... One person told me
    "it sounds too simple". They overlook the
    simplicity of the cycle of life sunny flower Cool


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    Re: Christian propaganda against reiki

    Post by chi_solas on Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:59 am

    fshortt wrote:Not sure if its in the right forum, but here it is:

    I am not sure why, but I did a search on google and came across many christian sites that are trying to link reiki to demonic and satanic ideas.
    Reading the site it is very obvious to anyone with common sense that they obviously do not know what they are talking about, but I am sure it will scare away many potential practitioners with this propaganda - it made me laugh at first... here is a link, there are many and easy to find, some so full of fantasy.... I'll let you all read for yourself - at any rate this is a full on propaganda war hehe, and I think if it is responded to it will only feed into this distorted perspective.

    http://www.christianreiki.eu/Page1_eng.htm
    http://www.spiritbattleforsouls.org/id27.html
    http://www.sign2god.com/folders/demonic-possession.html
    http://www.probe.org/site/c.fdKEIMNsEoG/b.4222355/
    http://www.songoftheprophet.com/Reiki.html
    http://www.jesus-reiki.eu/Reikidemons/page3.htm



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    They call on the spirits(holy ghost)and some bless
    them selves with the sign of the cross. Chanting,
    candles, ceremonies, money donations, beads, icons
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    Re: Christian propaganda against reiki

    Post by Pachamama on Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:10 am

    'it sounds too simple'.....I have to admit this was my view also when i first heard about Reiki, but the truth is, it is that simple!

    I may have mentioned this before, but a couple of years agao I went to our local Parish Centre ( Cristain based)to enquire about renting a room there to offer reiki....it was quite hilarious how those in charge of the centre, recoiled in horror at the mention of the word Reiki, and said they felt it was in opposition to healing through Christ...I attempted to offer some reasuurances but their views were very rigid, so I left them with their religious ignorance. But I have since heard that Reiki has been practiced in that same centre, so....their minds have opened a little over the past couple of years.... Very Happy

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    Re: Christian propaganda against reiki

    Post by LightBody on Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:27 pm

    Pachamama wrote:...it was quite hilarious how those in charge of the centre, recoiled in horror at the mention of the word Reiki, and said they felt it was in opposition to healing through Christ...


    Well, to be fair from their perspective, I think that if one looks at Reiki from the outside that it would appear to be a weird spiritual system whose practitioners revere this old photo of a Japanese guy and use spooky squiggly symbols that possess healing powers. Usui and Christ seem to be on the same level.

    And to be fair to us from our perspective, aren't these the same groups who went into an uproar when Dan Brown's fictional story, The DaVinci Code was released, proclaiming that it wasn't true??? (It's always a shock to me to learn fictional stories aren't true....)





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    Re: Christian propaganda against reiki

    Post by Rlei_ki on Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:47 pm

    Buck wrote:

    Well, to be fair from their perspective, I think that if one looks at Reiki from the outside that it would appear to be a weird spiritual system whose practitioners revere this old photo of a Japanese guy and use spooky squiggly symbols that possess healing powers.


    And of course there are all the 'weird-and-wonderful' other practices which have found their way into various Reiki lineages: crystals, toning, kuji in, smudging, banishing rituals, the invocation of Buddhist deities, etc, etc; and then all those "Reikis" which bear no connection to Usui-sensei, other than in name...

    Is it any wonder these people are confused?




    Buck wrote:Usui and Christ seem to be on the same level.


    Oh, you've really done it now.

    "How to inflame the Fundamentalists, 101" Laughing



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    Re: Christian propaganda against reiki

    Post by chi_solas on Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:41 am

    [quote="Rlei_ki"]
    Buck wrote:


    Buck wrote:Usui and Christ seem to be on the same level.


    Oh, you've really done it now.

    "How to inflame the Fundamentalists, 101" Laughing




    lol! that's exactly what came to my mind when
    I first heard of Reiki. Then I was told that Reiki
    was not religious. However if one believes that
    "Christ" lives within us then one might believe that
    "Usui" also lives within us. Reiki's 5 precepts
    supports human kindness that promotes mindfulness.


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    Re: Christian propaganda against reiki

    Post by fshortt on Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:30 pm

    Rlei_ki wrote:
    Buck wrote:

    Well, to be fair from their perspective, I think that if one looks at Reiki from the outside that it would appear to be a weird spiritual system whose practitioners revere this old photo of a Japanese guy and use spooky squiggly symbols that possess healing powers.


    And of course there are all the 'weird-and-wonderful' other practices which have found their way into various Reiki lineages: crystals, toning, kuji in, smudging, banishing rituals, the invocation of Buddhist deities, etc, etc; and then all those "Reikis" which bear no connection to Usui-sensei, other than in name...

    Is it any wonder these people are confused?




    Buck wrote:Usui and Christ seem to be on the same level.


    Oh, you've really done it now.

    "How to inflame the Fundamentalists, 101" Laughing




    hehe perfect!

    on a serious note thought, my father's family was practicing catholics in Ireland, and my grand-uncle a priest all his life (was given to the church as a child) and they have no problem with reiki. I taught both my grandmother and grand-uncle to do reiki so they could keep it up when I was not there. It helped them a lot toward the end of their lives.
    Personally, the only christians I have had issues with is 'born-again-version'. In culture with a long tradition of catholic practice and beliefe there have been no issues in my experience, but rather an open curiosity. Now this might only be my experience, but i think there is something to this. If you are confortable in your own beliefs, then something like Reiki will never be seen as a threat, but rather welcomed and integrated where it can be.

    ??

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    Re: Christian propaganda against reiki

    Post by MattiT on Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:43 pm

    chi_solas wrote:
    All Religions use symbols and written guidelines.
    They call on the spirits(holy ghost)and some bless
    them selves with the sign of the cross. Chanting,
    candles, ceremonies, money donations, beads, icons
    and rituals are part of their daily worship. study


    Sure, but they all (the Semitic 3 big at least) believe they have the one and only truth and any competing similar ideas must be from Satan and Demons (emblematic enough, those words are also borrowed from other religions' deities or neutral spirits).

    Of course there are many Christians who do not feel offended by Reiki. Probably the fundamentalists are a small minority, but they tend to be loud (as most extremists do).

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