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    Talking to the sub-conscious

    Post by Lambs-Wool on Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:24 pm

    dear all

    SHK is superb tool in our hands for the treatments of addictions, bad habits and emotional complexes... Takata Sensei is found to have used SHK for the purpose of "talking with the sub-conscious" of the patient/client. in this later use, SHK is a tool to give affirmations to sub-conscious... to some extent, in a technique called SeiHeKi Chiryo Ho, the role of SHK, if used as the technique suggests, comes a bit closer to a session of a hypnotist, which tries to embed positive / desired suggestions into the sub-conscious of the patient.

    James Deacon on www.aetw.org/d_seiheiki.html wrote:
    she taught that you must make positive suggestions concerning the habit the individual wishes to change - your statements should help to inspire and convince them to change or get better. And, beyond the treatment session itself, if the client makes any reference to issues they are seeking to resolve, you should take such opportunities to reinforce the suggestions and be supportive of their desire to improve their situation.


    this is the direct/in-person version of seiheki chiryo ho.... however, a distant version may be tried as well, especially in cases when the client/patient is not in a state of calmness to sit for the session, or if he/she is not available near you... the technique is the same with the only difference that after the gassho and stating the intent, you have to draw HSZSN three times on the back of the head (by visualizing this act in your mind's eye)... after HSZSN you would draw SHK followed by CKR as advised in the original technique...

    i have used the above technique on my 4 years old daughter who had autistic problems and associated symptoms like lack of socializing, out of focus when required, repetition of words/actions without need, etc. while she would not always be eager to sit for session in calm mood, i had to search something else, and instinctively (reiki instinct, lol) i used a distant 'version' of the technique... the results were found very promising... she is now studying with normal children in school, and showing improvements...

    during the treatments, i had made another observation. while we are connected to somebody remotely during this technique or some other distant treatment session, we can experiment on doing away with 'talking with the sub-conscious', and instead start 'feeling with the sub-conscious mind'..... instead of giving suggestions in words, why not to start feeling the joy as if the desired state for the client/patient has already achieved... it is something like James Tawmann's spoon bending course, or Richard Gordon's Distant QT technique... whatever it is borrowed from, i have testified it myself that it works far effectively than if suggestions were given through words..

    encouraged by this experiment, i m testing the hypothesis that when we give distant treatments, if we start using this technique (i.e., feeling as if patient has already healed), do we start using our own energies somehow too (since, compassion level is sometimes very high during such experiments...


    i m ending the post with a 'disclaimer' that 'try at our own risk' lol


    take care

    salman










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    Re: Talking to the sub-conscious

    Post by catsquotl on Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:57 am

    Synchronisity at its best.
    Just yesterday I was listening to a tape about healer archetypes and healing..

    Most mystic prayer healers pray with a feel or mindset in which the healee already is healed. Gods grace is already upon them. The prayer or healing is nothing more. Strange to use the word nothing here, but an elaborate ritualized "THANK YOU"
    AL that needs to be done is already done at the time we start healing...

    with Love
    Eelco

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    Re: Talking to the sub-conscious

    Post by chi_solas on Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:07 am

    Talking to the subconscious mind
    is different than talking to the
    conscious. Our subconscious is our
    higher mind. Although when you look
    at a diagram description of the
    conscious/subconscious mind they are
    often shown as an iceberg with the
    conscious as the tip and the sub-
    conscious below the water level, that
    would visually indicate the subconscious
    as being below the conscious not higher. Rolling Eyes

    The subconscious mind hears and understands
    language in a different way. We need to
    communicate to it in positive language about
    what it is that we want. If I want to heal I
    would say, "I'm healed ". If I say I "want"
    to heal then I could stay in a state of
    wanting rather than being healed.

    sunny


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    Re: Talking to the sub-conscious

    Post by Colin on Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:26 am

    Lambs-Wool wrote:dear all

    SHK is superb tool in our hands for the treatments of addictions, bad habits and emotional complexes... Takata Sensei is found to have used SHK for the purpose of "talking with the sub-conscious" of the patient/client.

    <snip>

    during the treatments, i had made another observation. while we are connected to somebody remotely during this technique or some other distant treatment session, we can experiment on doing away with 'talking with the sub-conscious', and instead start 'feeling with the sub-conscious mind'..... instead of giving suggestions in words, why not to start feeling the joy as if the desired state for the client/patient has already achieved... it is something like James Tawmann's spoon bending course, or Richard Gordon's Distant QT technique... whatever it is borrowed from, i have testified it myself that it works far effectively than if suggestions were given through words..



    Hi Salman

    Yes, I like this approach! Smile

    It may work similarly to when we are with a group of happy people we also begin to feel happy (and vice versa, unfortunately).

    Like a physical healing when we create a sympathetic Reiki vibration in the client, we could maybe also do the same on the mental/emotional level.

    santa


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    Re: Talking to the sub-conscious

    Post by chi_solas on Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:05 pm

    During a Reiki session/distant journey using the
    visualizing technique to draw HSZSN three times
    on the back of the head followed by SHK & CKR is
    a positive body language/action that the sub-
    conscious can relate to in a relaxed Reiki state
    of mind. sunny


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    Re: Talking to the sub-conscious

    Post by Lambs-Wool on Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:56 pm

    catsquotl wrote:AL that needs to be done is already done at the time we start healing...

    with Love
    Eelco


    i loved this sentence Eelco Smile
    thanks

    Colin wrote:
    Like a physical healing when we create a sympathetic Reiki vibration in the client, we could maybe also do the same on the mental/emotional level.


    yes Colin, you have touched the right string on the fret Smile

    when we add HSZSN, and then feel the joy of feeling that patient has healed the emotional issue, the oneness created within the while, immediately starts mirroring the things on the patient too... however, this gives rise to a debate that aint we trying to be 'in control' of the process too much, and actually obstructing the standard principle of 'letting go' within reiki ?
    scratch

    Bridget wrote:During a Reiki session/distant journey using the
    visualizing technique to draw HSZSN three times
    on the back of the head followed by SHK & CKR is
    a positive body language/action that the sub-
    conscious can relate to in a relaxed Reiki state
    of mind.


    yes, this is yet another aspect of using symbols Smile

    with HSZSN being added to Seiheki Chiryo Ho, we more easily can drift to oneness and can invite far more mindfulness into the whole process... i don't know, however, what are the subtleties involved in 'modifying' established techniques... with many people experimenting along such things, and then discussing and pooling their experiences, can only provide a good basis to say that such and such technique has now been sorta 'standardized'

    for example, following lead of Jim, i m experimenting with HSZSN used before drifting to sleep, and i m finding an amazing difference in my sleep pattern... the duration of required sleep has been shortened, and the sleep is healthier than before....

    another interesting experience Smile ! i have used SHK over heart area of a person with hypertension... this leads to drop of systolic pressure by 5 points, and diastolic pressure by 2 or three points immediately... i can see that a large statistical data and then correlation/Standard deviation analysis would be required if we have to open mouth about the sanctity of this method...

    i am studying the reiki technician mannual by Stephen Buck these days, and feeling that a lot can be added to our perception of reiki process if we spend time analysing the clinical reiki areas! thanks Buck Smile


    all love

    salman

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    Re: Talking to the sub-conscious

    Post by Colin on Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:20 pm

    Lambs-Wool wrote:
    Colin wrote:
    Like a physical healing when we create a sympathetic Reiki vibration in the client, we could maybe also do the same on the mental/emotional level.


    yes Colin, you have touched the right string on the fret Smile

    when we add HSZSN, and then feel the joy of feeling that patient has healed the emotional issue, the oneness created within the while, immediately starts mirroring the things on the patient too... however, this gives rise to a debate that aint we trying to be 'in control' of the process too much, and actually obstructing the standard principle of 'letting go' within reiki ?
    scratch


    To me, an SHK treatment, as done traditionally, is a kind of special case in Reiki because, although we are taught in physical treatments to let go and not become attached to results, with the SHK and its associated affirmations/commands to the subconscious, we appear to be expecting a particular result in this situation. What is actually happening though (I believe) is that we are making a petition to that person's subconscious on behalf of that person for them to make a change in themselves - we are not controlling that change, just providing the opportunity and a bit of help.

    However, by feeling "joy" that the client has healed we can again work in the same way as we do (or should) with physical healing - we start to emanate the vibration of Reiki, which generates a symapthetic vibration in the client but we do not control the rate of that vibration or what it actually does. That is up to the innate balancing/healing effect of Reiki itself. Smile

    Lambs-Wool wrote:
    another interesting experience Smile ! i have used SHK over heart area of a person with hypertension... this leads to drop of systolic pressure by 5 points, and diastolic pressure by 2 or three points immediately... i can see that a large statistical data and then correlation/Standard deviation analysis would be required if we have to open mouth about the sanctity of this method...


    Yes, that is a very interesting finding and it would be an interesting piece of research to do... Smile


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