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    Re: How would you use Reiki when someone gets injured in an accident?

    Post by Dharma on Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:53 pm

    Grandma Chi
    it is the simple things in our daily lives that truly fill us with joy, just as your sunshine fills this forum with love and joy, with love and hugs to youxxx

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    Re: How would you use Reiki when someone gets injured in an accident?

    Post by LightChild on Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:26 pm

    Dharma wrote:Grandma Chi
    it is the simple things in our daily lives that truly fill us with joy, just as your sunshine fills this forum with love and joy, with love and hugs to youxxx


    I absolutely agree flower Bridget has such a uplifting, wise and refreshing posts and thoughts. Thank you Bridget!!! heart smiley

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    Re: How would you use Reiki when someone gets injured in an accident?

    Post by chi_solas on Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:19 am

    LightChild wrote:
    Dharma wrote:Grandma Chi
    it is the simple things in our daily lives that truly fill us with joy, just as your sunshine fills this forum with love and joy, with love and hugs to youxxx


    I absolutely agree flower Bridget has such a uplifting, wise and refreshing posts and thoughts. Thank you Bridget!!! heart smiley


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    Re: How would you use Reiki when someone gets injured in an accident?

    Post by Thaak on Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:10 am

    Reikijim wrote:
    Dharma wrote:

    but what I was really saying was...where the situation needs healing is not always directly where can see the wound. blessings lovely



    I apologize for making you feel that you needed to qualify your response. I`m a firm believer in treating the emotional damage that comes through the fear realized in the experience and the pain sensed through the injury.

    I understand the importance of a healing space...I`m not exactly a newcomer to the world of Reiki, but...

    A friend and i are carrying a 180lb man with his collar bone sticking out the fornt of his chest,(among other injuries0 down a muddy mountain trail in a driving rain...my mind was on things other than healing spaces. For example...TRYING TO NOT FALL DOWN

    ...the healing space is gonna have to wait until I`ve stopped blood loss and assess the person for shock.

    Jim


    This brings to mind an interesting anecdote that my shamanic teacher relayed from an experience she had in Peru.

    Even in today's day of modern animal medicine, if an animal gets too severely hurt, they put them down. Especially Equine's who break their legs.

    So a mule broke its leg in a rock slide and was screaming and writhing in pain. Nobody could get near it to put it down.

    A Q'ero shaman calmly approached the mule (it could have been a Donkey, I don't really remember) and touched it, and the mule peacefully passed on.

    There was no ritual. No setting of healing space or intent. He just "deathed" the mule. It was the mule's time, and the shaman helped the mule to move on without so much fear, anxiety, pain, and suffering.

    But you will also see the Q'ero spend hours on ceremonial ritual every day for many varieties of reasons. They need their potatoes to grow, or rain, or someone has a fever, what have you.

    I guess my point is, in the moment of affliction, circumstances may require tangible action, rather than ritual or ceremony.

    But even while in the midst of tangible action, that seemingly envelops the entirety of your consciousness in the carrying out of that action, presence of mind and the involuntary flow of energy can still take place, and be helpful.

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    Re: How would you use Reiki when someone gets injured in an accident?

    Post by Reikijim on Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:59 pm

    Thaak wrote:
    But even while in the midst of tangible action, that seemingly envelops the entirety of your consciousness in the carrying out of that action, presence of mind and the involuntary flow of energy can still take place, and be helpful.


    Hi,

    I totally agree, and I usually take it for granted that Reiki begins to flow on it`s own when I`m working with someone in distress. I say this because i know it does. A need for healing, that I precieve, usually makes my hands tingle with no intention from my part.
    Some occurances I do not question, they just happen, permission or not.

    What I do know is that a person in distress usually feels better, if they see, (in their defenseless and sometimes totally helpless state) that someone has taken charge and is getting them help. Your confidence in the situation can be quite calming. Quiet confidence, would seem very "Reiki like" to me.

    Be mentally/emotionally prepared, but have no expectations of what you are going to do at an accident scene. I`ve been to a handful, three that were fatal, one car accident, one cardic arrest and one electrocution. Very different scenes, very different experiences.

    For me the most practicle approach would be to do Reiki as a secondary supporter. Let the lead person at the scene concentrate on "tangible" aid while someone else offers assistance of a more subtle flavour.I think as Reiki practioners, most might agree, that we aid people in need occasionally, without their permission or even possibly our own knowledge.
    Sometimes Reiki`s not lookin` for permission.

    I do believe that many care givers and emergency response folk, give their patients energtic support even though they may have never heard of Reiki, Qi Gong etc.

    It`s a human thing...triggered by...compassion.

    Jim


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    Re: How would you use Reiki when someone gets injured in an accident?

    Post by chi_solas on Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:03 pm

    I see Reiki the system as a formal method.
    Then there's natural energy ULFE that offers
    the same energy that the Reiki system taps
    into. Reiki practitioners are aware of the
    natural free energy & are quick to use it
    when needed. bounce


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    Re: How would you use Reiki when someone gets injured in an accident?

    Post by Dharma on Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:22 pm

    Thaak wrote:
    Reikijim wrote:
    Dharma wrote:

    but what I was really saying was...where the situation needs healing is not always directly where can see the wound. blessings lovely



    I apologize for making you feel that you needed to qualify your response. I`m a firm believer in treating the emotional damage that comes through the fear realized in the experience and the pain sensed through the injury.

    I understand the importance of a healing space...I`m not exactly a newcomer to the world of Reiki, but...

    A friend and i are carrying a 180lb man with his collar bone sticking out the fornt of his chest,(among other injuries0 down a muddy mountain trail in a driving rain...my mind was on things other than healing spaces. For example...TRYING TO NOT FALL DOWN

    ...the healing space is gonna have to wait until I`ve stopped blood loss and assess the person for shock.

    Jim


    This brings to mind an interesting anecdote that my shamanic teacher relayed from an experience she had in Peru.

    Even in today's day of modern animal medicine, if an animal gets too severely hurt, they put them down. Especially Equine's who break their legs.

    So a mule broke its leg in a rock slide and was screaming and writhing in pain. Nobody could get near it to put it down.

    A Q'ero shaman calmly approached the mule (it could have been a Donkey, I don't really remember) and touched it, and the mule peacefully passed on.

    There was no ritual. No setting of healing space or intent. He just "deathed" the mule. It was the mule's time, and the shaman helped the mule to move on without so much fear, anxiety, pain, and suffering.

    But you will also see the Q'ero spend hours on ceremonial ritual every day for many varieties of reasons. They need their potatoes to grow, or rain, or someone has a fever, what have you.

    I guess my point is, in the moment of affliction, circumstances may require tangible action, rather than ritual or ceremony.

    But even while in the midst of tangible action, that seemingly envelops the entirety of your consciousness in the carrying out of that action, presence of mind and the involuntary flow of energy can still take place, and be helpful.


    i would completly agree with you both, my post perhaps was not worded well, the point i was making was, a healer that is presant at the time or shortly after a trauma has taken place would do the soul much good to work in the luminous field, in the space of the soul, to prevent the full trauma enetering that field. not create a sacred space in which to work, but heal within that space.
    blessings lovelyx

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    Re: How would you use Reiki when someone gets injured in an accident?

    Post by Moore on Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:36 pm

    First aid where needed.

    Then localized non-touch treatment on places with obvious pain / Injury using Choku Rei (Earth Ki, healing the physical body).

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    Re: How would you use Reiki when someone gets injured in an accident?

    Post by chi_solas on Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:08 pm

    Whenever I've done natural first aid
    on myself I'm always amazed how quickly
    it works over medical practices that I
    once used before formal Reiki came into
    my life. sunny


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    Re: How would you use Reiki when someone gets injured in an accident?

    Post by aronaya on Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:45 pm

    I'm an EMT and a Reiki Master, and just found this topic. Lots to consider here. What's needed, what can help, permission, and practical realities all come into play.

    First off, everyone should take a CPR class. With the new protocols that make mouth-to-mouth optional (in U.S.), there is no excuse not to. "Push hard, push fast" is way better than doing nothing, when someone is unconscious and not breathing. Learn the basics. Bystander CPR is a proven lifesaver. By the time we EMTs get there, if no one's been doing CPR, minutes have gone by without blood and oxygen going to the victim's brain - not good. I love hearing over the radio, before the ambulance has even left the station, "CPR is in progress". That gives the person a shot at surviving with brain function intact. Though it's small percentage who do ultimately survive, what if it's your loved one, and they have potentially years of life ahead of them? At the very least, we might keep their organs viable for donation to save another's life.

    If you do a regular practice of Reiki self-treatment, then when you do CPR or other first aid, your presence is calming and helpful, automatically, without worrying about explaining Reiki, doing hands-on treatment, etc. Reiki is not separate from who you are as a compassionate human.

    That being said, permission is still important. Not everyone will welcome Reiki, even if they're in acute pain. And, time is important -- in the next thirty seconds you can either ask if you can do Reiki, or call for an ambulance and explain the situation to the emergency folks, or put pressure on a wound to stop bleeding, what do you think the victim would prefer?

    Nevertheless, it gets easier as time goes by, as more people are aware of Reiki, so permission should be easier. When rescue is called, bleeding is controlled, and the victim is in a stable position, then Reiki might come up.

    Keep in mind, what's powerfully healing is your presence, the victim knowing they're not alone, that someone is helping. That part is huge. You will be much more confident being present, if you have learned and practiced some first aid basics. First aid is a life skill, not a specialty reserved for licensed people.

    As a reality, I don't do a lot of "explicit" Reiki in an ambulance. Sometimes, when the patient has pain, I may ask if my hand, there, is OK and does it help? And, sometimes, it does.

    More often, I rely on the knowledge that my eyes, my breath, my voice and my physical presence all convey the feeling of calm and compassion, to the degree I express that to myself in my daily Reiki self-treatment. A Reiki Master friend once admonished me to think in terms of HOURS PER DAY of self-treatment, rather than minutes. This shift in thinking makes all the difference. You can self-treat throughout the day, whenever there is a moment.

    A dream of mine is to see Reiki included in emergency medicine protocols. In the U.S., these vary state by state. If anyone knows of any state or country that mentions Reiki in their emergency protocols, I'd love to hear of it.

    Blessings,
    Aronaya

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    Re: How would you use Reiki when someone gets injured in an accident?

    Post by kaytan on Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:38 am

    excellent question and excellent answers beat thank you all I had the same question...

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    Re: How would you use Reiki when someone gets injured in an accident?

    Post by chi_solas on Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:28 pm

    aronaya wrote:I'm an EMT and a Reiki Master, and just found this topic. Lots to consider here. What's needed, what can help, permission, and practical realities all come into play.
    good points Neutral great to see EMT's holding a Reiki certification. I've been encouraging my son to get Reiki certified.

    First off, everyone should take a CPR class. With the new protocols that make mouth-to-mouth optional (in U.S.), there is no excuse not to. "Push hard, push fast" is way better than doing nothing, when someone is unconscious and not breathing. Learn the basics. Bystander CPR is a proven lifesaver. By the time we EMTs get there, if no one's been doing CPR, minutes have gone by without blood and oxygen going to the victim's brain - not good. I love hearing over the radio, before the ambulance has even left the station, "CPR is in progress". That gives the person a shot at surviving with brain function intact. Though it's small percentage who do ultimately survive, what if it's your loved one, and they have potentially years of life ahead of them? At the very least, we might keep their organs viable for donation to save another's life.


    This is a lot of food for thought.

    If you do a regular practice of Reiki self-treatment, then when you do CPR or other first aid, your presence is calming and helpful, automatically, without worrying about explaining Reiki, doing hands-on treatment, etc. Reiki is not separate from who you are as a compassionate human.


    It's easy to step up and help if you
    already volunteer your Reiki services,
    you will not feel intimidated by what
    other think

    That being said, permission is still important. Not everyone will welcome Reiki, even if they're in acute pain. And, time is important -- in the next thirty seconds you can either ask if you can do Reiki, or call for an ambulance and explain the situation to the emergency folks, or put pressure on a wound to stop bleeding, what do you think the victim would prefer?


    The human touch is always part of the
    innate equation, weather it recognized
    as Reiki or not,formally/in-formally

    Nevertheless, it gets easier as time goes by, as more people are aware of Reiki, so permission should be easier. When rescue is called, bleeding is controlled, and the victim is in a stable position, then Reiki might come up.

    flower

    Keep in mind, what's powerfully healing is your presence, the victim knowing they're not alone, that someone is helping. That part is huge. You will be much more confident being present, if you have learned and practiced some first aid basics. First aid is a life skill, not a specialty reserved for licensed people

    As a reality, I don't do a lot of "explicit" Reiki in an ambulance. Sometimes, when the patient has pain, I may ask if my hand, there, is OK and does it help? And, sometimes, it does.


    Being placed in an ambulance is a
    scarey/vulnerable place to be. The
    presence of a calm person is helpful.

    More often, I rely on the knowledge that my eyes, my breath, my voice and my physical presence all convey the feeling of calm and compassion, to the degree I express that to myself in my daily Reiki self-treatment. A Reiki Master friend once admonished me to think in terms of HOURS PER DAY of self-treatment, rather than minutes. This shift in thinking makes all the difference. You can self-treat throughout the day, whenever there is a moment.


    yes, sending Reiki to your self at
    the beginning of your day can help
    you regroup when you need to call on
    it during a busy day.bounce

    A dream of mine is to see Reiki included in emergency medicine protocols. In the U.S., these vary state by state. If anyone knows of any state or country that mentions Reiki in their emergency protocols, I'd love to hear of it.


    YES! I would love to see it in
    the fire department/police/ER's Every-Where


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