We have great people who started their styles within Reiki... they added symbols as per perception and effectiveness... some of them even got detached from the mainstream reiki and continued in 'developing' and 'fine tuning' their respective systems...


as Reiki Masters, we all have got 'powers' to use DKM that way, and to 'introduce' something, and of course, such things will work without doubt, since DKM empowers us for the things in focus and for things 'coming later' !


what i wish to ask here (especially from the people who know me) that how many years i must wait before starting my style called 'Salman's Reiki'


oh God, i have acted so outrageous in trying to act naughty !!






salman

you bugger! i'm in a phone call with a government agency and cant stop laughing!

Milarepa wrote:you bugger! i'm in a phone call with a government agency and cant stop laughing!

Living proof that men find it difficult to multi-task!

Salman...don't worry, your Reiki Guides will tell you when the time is right to start your own Reiki Style. If you are lucky, they may even give you some extra symbols to start you off!

aww, thanks Colin

If i happen to be lucky enough to 'devour' 100% whatever Usui Shiki Ryoho contains, then maybe i may request my guides to show me off a path that is 'new'

The purpose of this thread is to have a discussion whether Usui Shiki Ryoho is merely a stepping stone or base camp to climb something 'apparently' called high mountains like karuna, seikhem, tera mai, or just that we ourselves limiting our perception about the potentials Usui Shiki Ryoho may contain

Jumping to a new style would be something i may possibly not think of some good years down the road, let alone the concept of starting a style ?

Finally, isn't Usui Shiki Ryoho a 'complete' system in its own right?


Salman

Colin wrote:

Salman...don't worry, your Reiki Guides will tell you when the time is right to start your own Reiki Style. If you are lucky, they may even give you some extra symbols to start you off!

clear off! salman hasn't been tainted with crap!

Hia salman,

You have arise very interesting question....

I am not supporting to give new name to reiki because it divided the people and slow down our progress in this field.So not put your self in limitation keep moving on one day people automatically give you name not style but your work and achievement and that is right path to get name...


keep it up
vj
take care
vj

of course Vijay, what you said, is exactly in agreement with my thinking too

thanks!

Salman

Lambs-Wool wrote:
what i wish to ask here (especially from the people who know me) that how many years i must wait before starting my style called 'Salman's Reiki'

well, I wouldn't wait too long

- otherwise, when you do finally get round to starting it, you'll probably find someone else will have already trademarked the name

yes, probably this has happened with many folks here (save Takata Sensei too maybe? )

How amazing that except Usui Shiki Ryoho, all the systems seem to be 'well protected', safeguarded and 'trademarked'


Salman

Lambs-Wool wrote:yes, probably this has happened with many folks here (save Takata Sensei too maybe? )

How amazing that except Usui Shiki Ryoho, all the systems seem to be 'well protected', safeguarded and 'trademarked'


Salman

James is a wise man

Lambs-Wool wrote:The purpose of this thread is to have a discussion whether Usui Shiki Ryoho is merely a stepping stone or base camp to climb something 'apparently' called high mountains like karuna, seikhem, tera mai, or just that we ourselves limiting our perception about the potentials Usui Shiki Ryoho may contain

Jumping to a new style would be something i may possibly not think of some good years down the road, let alone the concept of starting a style ?

Finally, isn't Usui Shiki Ryoho a 'complete' system in its own right?

This is a very good question!

I strongly agree with you and Vijay. I wouldn't dream of creating a new style to add to the schism already spread too wide. And I definitely don't believe that the Usui style has any less potential than the styles advertized as "higher levels" of reiki.

Although I belong to the notorious "original" camp and would therefore prefer to talk about Usui Reiki Ryoho, I believe any differences between the two are so small that practically anything said about one also applies to the other.

Obviously I also agree Usui style is a complete system in its own right. Those who think otherwise are probably too impatient to study what Usui style has to offer before deciding to jump to some other "higher" style. They may then progress further and give credit to the new style, but I'm certain the same progress could have been made within the Usui style.

MattiT wrote:

Lambs-Wool wrote:The purpose of this thread is to have a discussion whether Usui Shiki Ryoho is merely a stepping stone or base camp to climb something 'apparently' called high mountains like karuna, seikhem, tera mai, or just that we ourselves limiting our perception about the potentials Usui Shiki Ryoho may contain

Jumping to a new style would be something i may possibly not think of some good years down the road, let alone the concept of starting a style ?

Finally, isn't Usui Shiki Ryoho a 'complete' system in its own right?

This is a very good question!

I strongly agree with you and Vijay. I wouldn't dream of creating a new style to add to the schism already spread too wide. And I definitely don't believe that the Usui style has any less potential than the styles advertized as "higher levels" of reiki.

Although I belong to the notorious "original" camp and would therefore prefer to talk about Usui Reiki Ryoho, I believe any differences between the two are so small that practically anything said about one also applies to the other.

Obviously I also agree Usui style is a complete system in its own right. Those who think otherwise are probably too impatient to study what Usui style has to offer before deciding to jump to some other "higher" style. They may then progress further and give credit to the new style, but I'm certain the same progress could have been made within the Usui style.

I was taught Reiki Ryoho I find it
simple and effective. I know that
other folks may not be satisfied
with it's simplicity. I have learned
that we all take different paths
and move at slow, medium or fast paces
to get to our destination. In Reiki
we all use the basics ULFE to get there.

chi_solas wrote:
I was taught Reiki Ryoho I find it
simple and effective.

unless we try to unnecessarily minus things from reiki rituals, something simple is often very effective.

in homoepathy, we increase potency by increasing the 'simplicity' of the mother tincture !


what i do, i dont use my eyes to find where i m going, rather i use the eyes of my mentors, since i know they know much better than my little knowledge

MattiT wrote:

Lambs-Wool wrote:

The purpose of this thread is to have a discussion whether Usui Shiki Ryoho is merely a stepping stone or base camp to climb something 'apparently' called high mountains like karuna, seikhem, tera mai, or just that we ourselves limiting our perception about the potentials Usui Shiki Ryoho may contain

Jumping to a new style would be something i may possibly not think of some good years down the road, let alone the concept of starting a style ?

Finally, isn't Usui Shiki Ryoho a 'complete' system in its own right?

This is a very good question!

probably yes, since it saved me from 'mistake' of inventing something of my own (ah, i made mistake in sentence, the right one would be : "it saved me from 'thinking' about such invention"

MattiT wrote:
I wouldn't dream of creating a new style to add to the schism already spread too wide. And I definitely don't believe that the Usui style has any less potential than the styles advertized as "higher levels" of reiki.

if i make analogy, the more wide-spread a religion would be, the more would be 'variants' within it.... so, in a way, the hundreds of variants within the 'original' reiki (may it be usui shiki ryoho, or usui reiki ryoho (or reiho)), this must translate into one thing at least... it has a superb power of its own!!

MattiT wrote:
Although I belong to the notorious "original" camp and would therefore prefer to talk about Usui Reiki Ryoho, I believe any differences between the two are so small that practically anything said about one also applies to the other.

as you have spoken with such a compassion, i m doubting you are from reiki jin kei do too ?? i love it, much thanks !

Obviously I also agree Usui style is a complete system in its own right. Those who think otherwise are probably too impatient to study what Usui style has to offer before deciding to jump to some other "higher" style. They may then progress further and give credit to the new style, but I'm certain the same progress could have been made within the Usui style.

thats a beautiful description! yes, who know what was ahead of us in Usui Reiki when we jumped to 'start' within another style !


salman

MattiT wrote:

Although I belong to the notorious "original" camp and would therefore prefer to talk about Usui Reiki Ryoho, I believe any differences between the two are so small that practically anything said about one also applies to the other.

Usui Shiki Ryoho is an original style. it's why i've stopped looking ot learn any other style, and will stick with Usui Shiki Ryoho for ever.

Lambs-Wool wrote:
if i make analogy, the more wide-spread a religion would be, the more would be 'variants' within it.... so, in a way, the hundreds of variants within the 'original' reiki (may it be usui shiki ryoho, or usui reiki ryoho (or reiho)), this must translate into one thing at least... it has a superb power of its own!!

Hi Salman,

there's a great saying (by Alan Watts, I think?) about:

"A thousand Zen Buddhist monks in a Monastery - a thousand different religions in the Monastery".

I think the same sentiment can apply in Reiki:

"A thousand Usui Reiki Ryoho* practitioners - a thousand different styles of Reiki"




*- for Usui Reiki Ryoho you can of course substitute Usui Shiki Ryoho, or Jikiden, Reido, Komyo or Gendai, etc. etc