I just recently got my level 2 attunement. I have been practicing. BUT now neither my husband nor I can feel anything. We felt more (when I was practicing on him) after my first attunement. Why is this? There is no relief for a headache...his restless leg syndrome...my excrutiating neck pain, etc. Why? Actually we never got any relief from anything ever...but we did feel something. At least I did. My hands used to get warm...now they don't...ever.

I know we are supposed to completely believe in it...but how?! He used to feel something before. It used to make him really relaxed. And even if I was the only one who believed...how is someone else supposed to when there is nothing to make him want to believe? I just would have thought it would have become stronger now...not weaker with a level 2. Am I missing something here????

If you go to a doctor for an ailment but the doctor NEVER does anything to help...do you keep going?

Just want some gentle and honest replies, suggestions, etc. Can anybody help me here?

Thanks!

Kim

Hi Kim,

tinkeysmom wrote:I just recently got my level 2 attunement. I have been practicing. BUT now neither my husband nor I can feel anything. We felt more (when I was practicing on him) after my first attunement. Why is this? There is no relief for a headache...his restless leg syndrome...my excrutiating neck pain, etc. Why? Actually we never got any relief from anything ever...but we did feel something. At least I did. My hands used to get warm...now they don't...ever.

You're not the first Reiki person to encounter this, so don't feel you're doing anything 'wrong', . Quite often, ailments are signs of something more deeper, and it's possible Reiki would be working on this. It's also worth noting that you yourself might need some extra attention with Reiki, in some way. This could be another factor.

I went 6 weeks one time without feeling anything, but sorted it out with 3 hours Reiki per day.

tinkeysmom wrote:
I know we are supposed to completely believe in it...but how?! He used to feel something before. It used to make him really relaxed. And even if I was the only one who believed...how is someone else supposed to when there is nothing to make him want to believe? I just would have thought it would have become stronger now...not weaker with a level 2. Am I missing something here????

If you go to a doctor for an ailment but the doctor NEVER does anything to help...do you keep going?

Yeah, this is the thing, Reiki's said to work whether belief is there or not, of course, the practitioner should naturally believe in it, else they wouldn't be doing it. If you're having doubts now (like i did), don't worry about that either, like i said, this could be a sign you need more focus on Reiki for yourself. It's primarily for you anyhow.

Can i ask a bit about the symptoms you've wrote here? Have the symptons got worse sine you're level 1? What kind of training did you have, was in in-person training?

Reiki can be very magical at times, but it's not a 'magic cure', . There might be other areas to explore with you & your husband that might give greater benefit.

It's often hard for a practitioner to alleviate pain on themselves, for instance. And in fact, in many energy therapies this is the same. For me, the best results i got with physical stuff was with quantum Touch, a very simple to learn therapy based on qigong. If you want, i can email you the basic manual, as well as the supercharging (advanced) level. Really easy to learn, with fantastic results. It tackles specifically the things you've mentioned. Just give me up to an hour, as i got to get lost data back from my hard drive, as i had to format it last night. Quantum touch will maybe help in short term, with Reiki doing what needs to be done with you in a more focussed way (?). Things will be great in no time, .

Take care
Wayne

Milarepa wrote:Hi Kim,

tinkeysmom wrote:I just recently got my level 2 attunement. I have been practicing. BUT now neither my husband nor I can feel anything. We felt more (when I was practicing on him) after my first attunement. Why is this? There is no relief for a headache...his restless leg syndrome...my excrutiating neck pain, etc. Why? Actually we never got any relief from anything ever...but we did feel something. At least I did. My hands used to get warm...now they don't...ever.

You're not the first Reiki person to encounter this, so don't feel you're doing anything 'wrong', . Quite often, ailments are signs of something more deeper, and it's possible Reiki would be working on this. It's also worth noting that you yourself might need some extra attention with Reiki, in some way. This could be another factor.

I went 6 weeks one time without feeling anything, but sorted it out with 3 hours Reiki per day.

tinkeysmom wrote:
I know we are supposed to completely believe in it...but how?! He used to feel something before. It used to make him really relaxed. And even if I was the only one who believed...how is someone else supposed to when there is nothing to make him want to believe? I just would have thought it would have become stronger now...not weaker with a level 2. Am I missing something here????

If you go to a doctor for an ailment but the doctor NEVER does anything to help...do you keep going?

Yeah, this is the thing, Reiki's said to work whether belief is there or not, of course, the practitioner should naturally believe in it, else they wouldn't be doing it. If you're having doubts now (like i did), don't worry about that either, like i said, this could be a sign you need more focus on Reiki for yourself. It's primarily for you anyhow.

Can i ask a bit about the symptoms you've wrote here? Have the symptons got worse sine you're level 1? What kind of training did you have, was in in-person training?

Reiki can be very magical at times, but it's not a 'magic cure', . There might be other areas to explore with you & your husband that might give greater benefit.

It's often hard for a practitioner to alleviate pain on themselves, for instance. And in fact, in many energy therapies this is the same. For me, the best results i got with physical stuff was with quantum Touch, a very simple to learn therapy based on qigong. If you want, i can email you the basic manual, as well as the supercharging (advanced) level. Really easy to learn, with fantastic results. It tackles specifically the things you've mentioned. Just give me up to an hour, as i got to get lost data back from my hard drive, as i had to format it last night. Quantum touch will maybe help in short term, with Reiki doing what needs to be done with you in a more focussed way (?). Things will be great in no time, .

Take care
Wayne

sure, I guess. Haven't heard much about it. I don't mind reading about it though.

tinkeysmom wrote:I just recently got my level 2 attunement. I have been practicing. BUT now neither my husband nor I can feel anything. We felt more (when I was practicing on him) after my first attunement. Why is this? There is no relief for a headache...his restless leg syndrome...my excrutiating neck pain, etc. Why? Actually we never got any relief from anything ever...but we did feel something. At least I did. My hands used to get warm...now they don't...ever.

I know we are supposed to completely believe in it...but how?! He used to feel something before. It used to make him really relaxed. And even if I was the only one who believed...how is someone else supposed to when there is nothing to make him want to believe? I just would have thought it would have become stronger now...not weaker with a level 2. Am I missing something here????

If you go to a doctor for an ailment but the doctor NEVER does anything to help...do you keep going?

Just want some gentle and honest replies, suggestions, etc. Can anybody help me here?

Thanks!

Kim

Hi Kim, I find it important to create a
peaceful area and time so that I can
focus. Balance and harmony is part
of the healing process.

Think about going to the movies you get
your ticket for the show you've choosen.
You smell the popcorn out in the foyer
you know your in a movie theatre

Think about going into a church. They play
sacred music. A pop concert,well bring your
ear plugs.

A hosptial fixes broken bones. operates
removes body parts gives you medicine
sometimes the meds work sometimes they don't.

A Reiki session/treatment is more spontaneous
you don't always have the props at hand. You
might use a chair instead of a massage table.
It's important that the giver/receiver are both
comfortable and in a peaceful frame of mind.
Allow yourselves to give your body permission to
heal. Do not let negative self talk interfer with
your healing process

tinkeysmom wrote:



sure, I guess. Haven't heard much about it. I don't mind reading about it though.

ok, send me an email, i'll post them a bit later, i'm going offline now. Oh!¬ about your sensitivity in your hands. Seishin Toitsu, a part of Hatsurei ho will help with this, .

Edit: hatsurei ho will create a more intense expereince, or better perception, of Reiki. It means 'generate spirit'.

tinkeysmom wrote:I just recently got my level 2 attunement. I have been practicing. BUT now neither my husband nor I can feel anything. We felt more (when I was practicing on him) after my first attunement. Why is this? There is no relief for a headache...his restless leg syndrome...my excrutiating neck pain, etc. Why? Actually we never got any relief from anything ever...but we did feel something. At least I did. My hands used to get warm...now they don't...ever.

I know we are supposed to completely believe in it...but how?! He used to feel something before. It used to make him really relaxed. And even if I was the only one who believed...how is someone else supposed to when there is nothing to make him want to believe? I just would have thought it would have become stronger now...not weaker with a level 2. Am I missing something here????

If you go to a doctor for an ailment but the doctor NEVER does anything to help...do you keep going?

Just want some gentle and honest replies, suggestions, etc. Can anybody help me here?

Thanks!

Kim

Hi Kim,



Wayne is correct when he says your not the only one to go through this. I remember a period after my level 2 class when the only time I could feel something was when I treated my aura. I could feel the usual tingling sensation when I held my hands about 1 meter away from my body. Yet, when my hands were closer, I felt nothing. This changed in a few days, and i don`t believe it has re-occured, come to think of it.
Level 2 is a big step in my opinion. It`s common for people to experience an adjustment period after level 2. I know I did, for what it`s worth. It may take a few days, or a few weeks, for things to settle down and become more predictable for you. You`re going to have to go with the flow in this, and have faith, things will work out.

RJ

you are thinking about it too much and expecting too much........let go of your thinking processes......and take your energy from your head to your heart........open youreselves up and surrender to the moment........let the reiki be, 'You' are getting in the way....

Shakti ~ Rising wrote:you are thinking about it too much and expecting too much........let go of your thinking processes......and take your energy from your head to your heart........open youreselves up and surrender to the moment........let the reiki be, 'You' are getting in the way....

lovely advice

seconded!


salman

well, generally speaking, and to Kim of course we are enthusiastic in the beginning when we take attunements of next level in reiki...

so KIM's affairs can be well imagined...


i can remember that immediately after getting attuned to level one, i had a fever... a very high, very painful... and it took almost 4 days till i recovered from that, and in that while i didnt use a paracetamol even....

i steadily relied upon reiki's "power" and that power then manifested its presence so dramatically

so KIM, just be with reiki, and behold that reiki is already working out what is due !


take care



salman

Hiya

For what it's worth, my Reiki master never felt a thing! Yet he was sure of the powerful effects of Reiki because of the feedback his clients gave him.

Reiki is a subtle energy, which means it works on subtle levels. It will sometimes work on the higher levels of the human energy field, and I believe this is what's happening here. If that is the case, your life will change in other ways: other healings will happen which aren't immediately apparent in the physical realm. I find this happens a lot after Level 2. My mentee last year told me after her level 2 that she wasn't feeling anything, nothing was happening, and she wanted to stop, so I said "fine". I saw her a few weeks later, and the most profound healing took place during our meeting.

When I'm giving Reiki to someone, sometimes I feel nothing. Sometimes I get bored! It's usually after these sessions that the recipient will tell me of the most amazing experience during the session! I believe it's because I'm not attached to the outcome of the session: I'm not trying to manipulate the energy: I'm out of the way.

Hope this helps

Thank for all the advice! I understand everything y'all are saying. Neither one of us are feeling anything...at any time. He hasn't said later that anything felt differently. I have felt nothing differently. I woke up with such excrutiating pain in my hip and I TRIED over and over to do Reiki on it. It didn't help at all. Not that I'm expecting miracles or anything...but I at least thought that it would maybe calm it down a bit. Or relax me, etc.

I'll try to stay optimistic. And to not think about it too hard...and just let go and let Reiki. It's just very hard.

I'll just keep pluggin along. Thanks again for all your kind words and suggestions. Y'all are great!

tinkeysmom wrote:Thank for all the advice! I understand everything y'all are saying. Neither one of us are feeling anything...at any time. He hasn't said later that anything felt differently. I have felt nothing differently. I woke up with such excrutiating pain in my hip and I TRIED over and over to do Reiki on it. It didn't help at all. Not that I'm expecting miracles or anything...but I at least thought that it would maybe calm it down a bit. Or relax me, etc.

I'll try to stay optimistic. And to not think about it too hard...and just let go and let Reiki. It's just very hard.

I'll just keep pluggin along. Thanks again for all your kind words and suggestions. Y'all are great!

it's all in the way you talk to yourself.
When you say, "its hard " you've already
given yourself a message that it's hard
almost like why bother.

self-talk and Stress
Self–talk refers to the dialogue that goes on inside your head when faced with conflict or life challenges or even simple day-to-day concerns. This aspect of yourself has a running commentary about everything you do. It never lets anything go by with out some comment, remark or evaluation.

You’ll recognize these thoughts because you have heard them all your life; I'm not smart enough, something is wrong, I can't do it, I never finish anything, this is too hard, change takes too long, etc.

These thoughts surface when you are faced with doing something that is counter to what your mind thinks you can do, or has a negative opinion about. Think back over some times that your own ideas or thoughts about what you could or could not accomplish got in the way of something you really wanted.

Okay...knowing that, now what?
This internal monologue is present in everyone. The bad news...there is no getting rid of it. The good news...you can learn how to manage your mind so that it is your servant and you are the master, not the other way around.

tinkeysmom wrote:Thank for all the advice! I understand everything y'all are saying. Neither one of us are feeling anything...at any time. He hasn't said later that anything felt differently. I have felt nothing differently. I woke up with such excrutiating pain in my hip and I TRIED over and over to do Reiki on it. It didn't help at all. Not that I'm expecting miracles or anything...but I at least thought that it would maybe calm it down a bit. Or relax me, etc.

I'll try to stay optimistic. And to not think about it too hard...and just let go and let Reiki. It's just very hard.

I'll just keep pluggin along. Thanks again for all your kind words and suggestions. Y'all are great!

It might be worth going into a bit more detail, if that's ok, . How long have you been involved with Reiki?

And what effects/benefits have you or others noticed?

Also, how often are you expereincing Reiki, as in self-treating?

Sorry to ask again, but was your training in-person, or distant?

Take care
Wayne

Milarepa wrote:It might be worth going into a bit more detail, if that's ok, . How long have you been involved with Reiki?

And what effects/benefits have you or others noticed?

Also, how often are you expereincing Reiki, as in self-treating?

Sorry to ask again, but was your training in-person, or distant?

Take care
Wayne

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I got my level 1 in October 2008.

The only thing I've ever noticed was my hands get warm and tingly (mostly the tingly) and it USED to make my husband feel relaxed. One time while on a bus with my daughter's school field trip I was "doing" Reiki on her while she was lying on me...she all of a sudden said my hands were really really warm (she was cold). That's about it.

I TRY to do self-treatment Reiki everyday but not as much (as far as time) as I think I should. I always get sidetracked.

Both trainings were in person.

Does that help any?

tinkeysmom wrote:

I got my level 1 in October 2008.

The only thing I've ever noticed was my hands get warm and tingly (mostly the tingly) and it USED to make my husband feel relaxed. One time while on a bus with my daughter's school field trip I was "doing" Reiki on her while she was lying on me...she all of a sudden said my hands were really really warm (she was cold). That's about it.

I TRY to do self-treatment Reiki everyday but not as much (as far as time) as I think I should. I always get sidetracked.

Both trainings were in person.

Does that help any?

yeah, . Was just troubleshooting really. Training was in-person, so more likely accurate initiations were carried out, leading to an actual connection to Reiki, in which you've said experiences that are typical of the experiences of others. And this 'lack' of perceived expereince is not from the very start. Cool.

Experiencing Reiki everyday is optimal, although it's definitely easy to get side-tracked. I was just mentioning in PM to another i was getting side-tracked myself lately.

I'm really interested in something though. What's been your expereinces with Reiki? Sensations, and feelings, even results/outcomes? Reason i ask is that as is already being explained, Reiki being essentially an aura technqiue, will work on areas that are very subtle, so the effects might be very subtle or feel non-existent. Of course, the basis response is to feel relaxation, though this isn't a given if there are areas that benefit more from the Reiki expereince on the subtle levels. With my own similar experience to yours, i felt nothing for 6 weeks once. I was going through a very challenging time emotionally, and trebled my daily experience of Reiki to 3 hours of full self-treatments, this really helped things internally, and pretty soon things were back to my usual way of perceiving things. Everyone's different, but this is what happened with me, so might be something worth looking at.

If you yourself aren't in tip-top shape, it might have some bearing on the experience others have. Reason being, if there's something that we need to work on ourselves, and for some reason it's not happening, it's hard to see how we can assist others. Reiki isn't as passive as some say, .

Anyhow, being as comprehensive as i can, if it's something to do with your connection to Reiki (which might occur with limited or sporadic personal Reiki use), then Hatsurei ho could very well help. Like i said yesterday, it'll help with sensations, and generating a more intense experience. I can give you a full manual, instructions, and audio, with up to level 2 in Japanese techniques of which Hatsurei is included. If you got Yahoo messenger or skype i can send the audio, or multiple email for the mp3's. The person who created them has gave me permisssion to pass the stuff, so that's cool.

Take care
Wayne