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Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

Post by Milarepa on Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:51 pm

excellant post!


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Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

Post by Thaak on Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:11 pm

dreamer wrote:I wanted to find my spirit guide so that i knew who was there helping to guide me and protect.

My reiki master said that i should call out for them espessialy as when asking for protection.


I think what Wayne is trying to say, is that traditionally the system of Reiki, as Mikao Usui rediscovered/created and taught did not include anything about Spirit Guides. That gaining a Spirit or Reiki Guide is something added to the system of Reiki recently by those who feel it was necessary.

Traditionalists feel, and they have a very valid and good argument, that you cannot call it Usui Reiki if you add things to it (or remove things from it) that Usui never taught. This is a respect issue rather than an issue of validity.

However, this doesn’t mean that you weren’t taught Reiki. The attunements are still validly Reiki attunements, even with all the new bells and whistles. Reiki is Reiki.

(Note: Just read Buck’s response, and wow… Buck, you just wrote from a very non-judgmental perspective, and for that, you should be applauded!)

As for your spirit guide… did you do the journey/meditation yourself? Or did your RMT do it for you and come up with all the information for you?

I think part of the problem with not feeling very connected to the very specific information might be because you didn’t gather it yourself.

Now of course when one starts on intuitional information gathering, it can be very difficult to trust in the information you get, and often the information is ambiguous at best.

In any case, just trust your own instincts and see what happens.


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Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

Post by Pandora on Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:17 pm

Buck, what a lovely reply. It kinda puts my experience as a RMT into perspective: I've been agonising as to whether I do enough for my students, while still allowing them to do the work of their own development. "When the student is ready, the teacher appears" and sometimes students need lessons that that particular teacher can't give them.


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Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

Post by dreamer on Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:17 pm

it was done through a pendulum of wich my reiki master contacted his spirit guide and asked his spirit guide to communicate to mine, he asked each question ie how many letters in first nme 1,2,3,4,5 and said it was the number when his pendulum swung a specific way. then it was does the first letter begin with a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h and so on.

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Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

Post by Thaak on Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:34 am

dreamer wrote:it was done through a pendulum of wich my reiki master contacted his spirit guide and asked his spirit guide to communicate to mine, he asked each question ie how many letters in first nme 1,2,3,4,5 and said it was the number when his pendulum swung a specific way. then it was does the first letter begin with a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h and so on.


I've never been a big fan of pendulums. They don't seem to work for me. I can never quite get a baseline for them. I don't know why. Therefore I don't personally use them. I have the same results when I try to use kinesiology on myself as well.

When I do intuitional conversation, I try to stay away from specifics. A very, very good book to read when it comes to intuition and Reiki is "Intuitive Reiki: For Our Times" by Amy Z. Rowland.


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Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

Post by Pandora on Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:30 am

dreamer wrote:I wanted to find my spirit guide so that i knew who was there helping to guide me and protect.

My reiki master said that i should call out for them espessialy as when asking for protection.


In my experience, we don't just have one guide, we have many. When I'm working with Reiki I ask for my angels, guides and helpers to be present: no need for names, they know who they are!

William Lea Rand has a meditation on a CD which enables you to meet your own guides, and when I did that I got Aslan the lion, Merlin the magician, and the goddess Flora. How can 3 fictitious characters be spirit guides? Well, the guidance I received from my guides told me that they manifest in the form which will make the most sense to you at that time.

If you want them just ask: they are always there for you. No need for names!


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Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

Post by Milarepa on Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:49 pm

Thaak wrote:

I think what Wayne is trying to say, is that traditionally the system of Reiki, as Mikao Usui rediscovered/created and taught did not include anything about Spirit Guides. That gaining a Spirit or Reiki Guide is something added to the system of Reiki recently by those who feel it was necessary.


I appreciate you trying to clarify bro, Smile. I was gonna let the posted ask me before i explained further, but i'll do it now.

I don't know the way Usui sensei taught, so it's not your above explanation in itself. Gratitude to you for helping me nonetheless, Smile.

The reason why guides aren't a part of the system of Reiki is cause they aren't needed. And the reason why they aren't needed is that the on-going expereince of Reiki will bring oneself so in touch with all aspects of themselves, that they'll begin to find themselves in such a way i can't even begin to put into words.

The on-going expereince of Reiki, will bring such deep experiences, and, new senses, that a practitioner simply won't need to look elsewhere. All it takes is hard work, and dilligence. Gyo wo hage me.

If, on the other hand, a person looks to other ways of knowing things, well, there's only so much time available. Somethings gotta be expereinced to a lesser degree. Or, our ego may go for the 'quicker' option. Not always being the best perhaps.

Reiki has already gave us a huge headstart, why do we insist on yet more short-cuts. I'm certain, through expereince, we havn't a clue what we're doing.

Take care
Wayne


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Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

Post by Pandora on Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:02 pm

Milarepa wrote:I'm certain, through expereince, we havn't a clue what we're doing.

Take care
Wayne


Oh I'm sure of that!

It's just as well we have access to people who do... Smile


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Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

Post by Milarepa on Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:15 pm

Please point me in the direction of the people you're speaking of.


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Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

Post by Thaak on Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:01 pm

Pandora wrote:
Milarepa wrote:I'm certain, through expereince, we havn't a clue what we're doing.

Take care
Wayne


Oh I'm sure of that!

It's just as well we have access to people who do... Smile


Oh, I’m sure we all have a clue. They may be different clues than one another. But we do have clues.

The question, however, is whether we are as good as Nicholas Cage in figuring the clues out so that we can find the ultimate treasure.


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Master & Teacher: Reiki (Usui), Seichim Reiki (Zeigler)
Master: Amanohuna (Cataldo)
Practitioner: Earth Energy (Hair), Kundalini Reiki, Diamond Reiki
Shamanic Titles: Pampamesayoq, Altomesayoq, & Karaq Aqulla(sp?)

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Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

Post by Milarepa on Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:10 pm

hehe, for sure. Maybe the journey is the actual destination anyhow..


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Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

Post by Thaak on Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:14 pm

Milarepa wrote:hehe, for sure. Maybe the journey is the actual destination anyhow..


There is no destination. All we have is were we are.


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Master & Teacher: Reiki (Usui), Seichim Reiki (Zeigler)
Master: Amanohuna (Cataldo)
Practitioner: Earth Energy (Hair), Kundalini Reiki, Diamond Reiki
Shamanic Titles: Pampamesayoq, Altomesayoq, & Karaq Aqulla(sp?)

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Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

Post by Milarepa on Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:29 pm

That's the subtle meaning of my words, i've just put across, hehe.


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Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

Post by Reikijim on Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:11 am

Milarepa wrote:Please point me in the direction of the people you're speaking of.



....Me too...

Smile RJ

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Re: hi new member question about my reiki master

Post by Pandora on Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:03 pm

Milarepa wrote:Please point me in the direction of the people you're speaking of.


Your guides, Wayne...


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